On this side of the pond we are led to believe that your president has 
considerable faith in Fox TV. Maybe he saw this and it might even have an 
effect on him/

Martin 

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From: USMA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hillger,Donald
Sent: 23 December 2019 16:19
To: James R. Frysinger; Stanislav Jakuba; John Steele
Cc: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA 1289] Re: Seattle sees its darkest day in recorded history: 
report | Fox News

We're a self-defeating organization!

-----Original Message-----
From: USMA <[email protected]> On Behalf Of James R. Frysinger
Sent: Monday, 23 December, 2019 09:11
To: Stanislav Jakuba <[email protected]>; John Steele 
<[email protected]>
Cc: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Subject: [USMA 1288] Re: Seattle sees its darkest day in recorded history: 
report | Fox News

You know, I was pretty happy about that all-metric news article. Then all the 
"improvement" commenters weighed in.

Ah, well. I enjoyed that small metrication success until then.

Jim

On 12/23/2019 08:53, Stanislav Jakuba wrote:
> Megajoules? Since when is the joule/area a unit in radiation?
> Radiation is energy-flow thus power. Average insolation in the US is 
> usually considered of 200 W/m2 if my memory serves me right. So 
> Seattle might be
> 100 W/m2, or maybe 50 W/m2.
> Stan J
>
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 9:09 AM John Steele 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     A better reference might be a clear, sunny day at the same latitude,
>     on the same date. I estimate around 14 MJ depending on exact
>     assumptions.
>
>     What would one "convert" it to? British Thermal Units per square
>     yard? Horses per acre?
>
>     On Monday, December 23, 2019, 8:31:30 AM EST, Phil Chernack
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>     That's great but wouldn't it be better if there were some reference
>     points like how much solar energy other cities receive.   The best
>     way to make metric work is to make it relevant in every day life. If
>     people want to understand km, learn the distances between cities,
>     kg--the weight (mass) of common objects, etc.
>
>     Phil
>
>     On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 7:38 AM James R. Frysinger
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         Foxnews published this article about the total insolation in
>         Seattle
>         last Friday amounting to only 0.37 MJ/m² (though they spelled
>         out the
>         unit names). No "translation"! I posted a supportive comment.
>
>         
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