Missed out to something that needs correcting to an international audience:
" Of the other papers, the Daily Mail and the Daily Express are populist one-sided right-wing papers that cannot be taken seriously while the biggest attraction in The Sun is the size of the Page 3 girl's breasts.” I wouldn’t lump imperial or patriotic with ‘right wing’ - you risk alienating people on the right who prefer metric and also the ‘flag waving’ sentiment risks not allowing the left / mon conservative to be patriotic . The Sun has not shown breasts for many year > On 19 Sep 2021, at 6:45 pm, John Steele <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, the 1875 Treaty of the Meter replaced the French flag with some kind of > international flag. Pretty clearly, Customary waves the US flag, and Imperial > the Union Jack; that is especially true as the rest of the British > Commonwealth is more metricated than the UK itself. > > On Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:14:49 PM EDT, Stephen Humphreys > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Suggest you listen to younger people - especially those who are active in > sports especially cricket and football > > I think the measure repeal thing is not to get people to switch back - it’s > just for anything new wouldn’t have to avoid imperial. > > And it’s not flag waving in the same way metric doesn’t have a french flag > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 19 Sep 2021, at 11:51 am, [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > > > > First of all, how are imperial units used in the United Kingdom? > > > > Almost everything in the United Kingdom is done using metric units, apart > > from road signs (the specification for manufacturing and placement of roads > > signs is done using metric units), the serving of draught beer and cider in > > pubs (but beer and sider that is sold in bottles or cans have their sizes > > in millilitres while wine and spirits are sold in miliilitre sized units), > > newspapers usually quote personal weights and heights in imperial units, > > but the medical profession uses metic units, grandma's hand-me-dowm recipes > > are usually in imperial units, but recipes in newspapers and magazines aer > > in metric units (A British recipe will quote "250 grams of flour" rather > > than "2 cups of flour"), milk in the supermarket is usually (but not > > always) sold in 1, 2, 4 or 6 pint containers, but farmers are paid by the > > litre. > > > > Last Friday a story appeared to have been "leaked" to The Times regarding > > possible "watering down" of rules regarding metrication. None of the other > > quality papers (The Daily Telegraph, the Guardian and The Independent) > > appeared to carry the story. The Times editorial that day was scathing > > about the proposal. The following day two letters were printed on the > > letters page, neither of which gave any support to the Government on the > > issue and today a cartoon appeared in the Sunday Times, again ridiculing > > both the prime minister and the possibility of reverting to imperial units > > (See > > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thetimes.co.uk%2Farticle%2Fmorten-morland-sunday-times-cartoon-september-19-2021-sb9kw0f8z&data=04%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7Cf75c0175f2f2431a922c08d97b9738af%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C637676711686708992%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=3C5yIbAu2R58SKo7PDFwSSaLmOx5gpOOQOwMo2bXcNA%3D&reserved=0 > > > > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thetimes.co.uk%2Farticle%2Fmorten-morland-sunday-times-cartoon-september-19-2021-sb9kw0f8z&data=04%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7Cf75c0175f2f2431a922c08d97b9738af%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C637676711686708992%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=3C5yIbAu2R58SKo7PDFwSSaLmOx5gpOOQOwMo2bXcNA%3D&reserved=0>). > > > > For the record, The Times often prints two reader's letters on any one > > topic - one in support of the topic and one against. Furthermore, in the > > run-up to an election, The Times columnists offer a variety of rules while > > the editor keeps silent until the last day before polling. > > > > Of the other papers, the Daily Mail and the Daily Express are populist > > one-sided right-wing papers that cannot be taken seriously while the > > biggest attraction in The Sun is the size of the Page 3 girl's breasts. > > > > The story is, I hope, a bit of sabre-rattling by a small minority. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: USMA <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Sent: 19 September 2021 02:46 > > To: USMA List Server <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > Subject: [USMA 1797] No, the UK isn't leaving the metric system > > > > From Reddit: > > > > There's been a couple articles (well, headlines) posted about the UK moving > > away from metric, and while yeah that seems to be true (and I'm not too > > happy about it), it's only subtly. > > > > The actual proposal is to repeal EU rules that meant that all products must > > be sold in metric, allowing people to sell in imperial units if they > > choose. This is mostly about market stalls and stuff, some of which might > > want to (and yeah, it's a silly nationalist flag-waving thing), but there > > is no way that any larger retailers, supermarkets, chain shops or anything > > of the sort would stop using metric. > > > > I mean I have no idea how pounds, ounces, gallons etc. work, and apart from > > the few things we still do use here (like feet and inches for height, miles > > for road signs and speed), everyone under 30 uses the metric system. > > Do I think this is a stupid step backwards only designed to appeal to a > > subset of older patriotic Brits? Yep, absolutely, and it's an utter waste > > of time policy. Are we leaving the metric system and returning to the > > imperial one? 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