As well you should, Mr. Flint; as well you should.  Yours truly, in another
life, was a police officer for around twelve years, total.  Saw my share of
accidents on the street where occupants had not been wearing them, including
having to retrieve a severed head that had flown about 100 feet down the
road, while the woman's young daughter waited back at the car.
And every winter I see the jerks who don't slow down even one iota during
blizzards going off the interstate here.

I put mine on even for short trips into town, despite it's being a royal
pain getting them on and off (our second Saab; first one was the same in
this regard)

Old Farmer Dave



On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Paul Flint <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Sam,
>
> That 2.5X roll-over was a religious experience. I now worship seat belts!
>
> Regards,
>
> Flint
>
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, sth wrote:
>
>  Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:55:05 -0400
>> From: sth <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: Vermont Area Group of Unix Enthusiasts <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: VT could use one of these...
>>
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>> At some point in college, when I visited a friend from my high-school
>> days in England, I discovered that it's not terribly uncommon for some
>> local community group (in this case the local university's caving club)
>> to have what amounted to *their own room* in a pub.
>>
>> Every, say, Wednesday night after 1900h, the caving club from
>> Aberystwyth University[1] (yes, that unlikely word comes from a human
>> language) would traipse down to the one pub, commandeer this room for
>> the duration of a few pints, and (ostensibly) transact the business of
>> their group. I suspect the establishment enjoyed the consistent custom.
>> I also suspect that there were more than a few meetings at which not
>> much was accomplished. But whatever. Other patrons sat in this room the
>> rest of the week, but the caving club's paraphernalia was hanging on the
>> walls.
>>
>> With all due respect to VAGUErants from other regions, of course, is
>> there an Internet-connected venue (doesn't have to be a pub, in the
>> spirit of accommodating the under-21 crowd) somewhere that doesn't
>> require the substantial crowds from the Burlington System and the
>> Montpelier Nebula to transit the Corridor of Doom[2] -- where the roads
>> eat Flints for breakfast -- during the winter months? I think that "lack
>> of perilous travel" would be a major selling point, especially if such a
>> place is being eyed as another stable venue for the monthly meeting.
>>
>>
>> $0.02,
>>
>> - -sth
>>
>> [1] http://www.aber.ac.uk
>> [2] http://xphile.noiseplant.com/url/?url=dLJoPWDZ
>>
>>
>> On 2009/03/30 4:59 PM, Rubin Bennett wrote:
>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Kevin Thorley <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Mon, 3/30/2009 4:20pm
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: VT could use one of these...
>>>
>>> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hacker_Spaces
>>>
>>> I LOVE this idea... I'd be very interested in seeing if there's enough
>>> interest/ energy to pull something like it off in the Montpelier area
>>> (Burlington is just too far away from where we are...).  There are available
>>> spaces that could be used for this right in town.
>>>
>>> I suspect that coffeeshops and WIFI cafes are serving as HackerSpaces in
>>> most areas though, because most hacker types are going to want a ready
>>> supply of:
>>> Pizza
>>> Coffee
>>> Soda
>>> Beer (for celebrating those little victories)
>>>
>>> So those should be close by, or even in the building as well.
>>>
>>> Hrm... I've pretty well described the antithesis of our office there,
>>> with the exception of readily available, really good coffee :)
>>>
>>> Rubin Bennett
>>> rbtechnologies, LLC
>>> (802)223-4448
>>> [email protected]
>>> http://thatitguy.com
>>>
>>> Think for yourselves and let others enjoy their privilege to do the same
>>>  --Voltaire
>>>
>>
>> - --
>>
>> sam hooker|[email protected]|http://www.noiseplant.com
>>
>> I have received the love Internet dispatch.
>>
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> Kindest Regards,
>
>
>
> Paul Flint
> (802) 479-2360
>
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