And I should add, I think VPR's goverment funding is less than 10%,
last I heard - I can honestly say that the threat of loss of
government funding is not an influence on content at VPR.

Asa

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Ken D'Ambrosio <[email protected]> wrote:
> Point of order: no.  16% of NPR funding is through federal and state
> governments; the rest is acquired elsewhere:
> http://www.npr.org/about/privatesupport.html
>
> Clearly, this didn't use to be the way things were (and will fluctuate a
> bit on a station-by-station basis, due to state funding), but it's the
> post-Reagan-era reality (for more details, see the NPR page on Wikipedia).
>
> -Ken
>
> On Fri, November 6, 2009 8:02 am, Paul Flint wrote:
>> Dear Jonathan and Stan,
>>
>>
>> The simple business truth is that VPR, WFCR, NPR etc. internally, and
>> IBB,
>> RFERL, RFA, OCB externally, are government radio.  The checks that pay
>> everyone are backed by Uncle Sam.  Regardless of whether this is a good
>> thing or a bad thing, if you are working in broadcast, you want to be
>> working for these organizations, your future prospepcts, the welfare of
>> you and your family are most assured.  I will group these broadcast
>> organizations under the title "Government Media" (GM).
>>
>> It is fun to watch Government Media try to reconcile the orientation of
>> current US executive Administration, GM personnel and management with
>> public trends and listen-ability, through good survey and media metrics
>> they all do a fairly bang-up job.  Thirty years ago when GM really
>> started, a startup glitch - no one in commercial network media would
>> touch it, spun GM into the "liberal" alternative.  Ten years ago "Nightly
>> Business Report" and it's ilk supplanted this initial bias and found the
>> heart of Reagan country.  While my words may sound harsh I do no condemn
>> GM, which is the fun-house mirror of our country's outlook.
>>
>>
>> Re: Can you be 'Open Source' and not release your source?
>>
>>
>> I maintain that "Open Source" to the producers, writers and creative
>> types at GM is merely a catchphrase, and a good one!  Keep in mind that GM
>>  survives by "feeding the beast", that is the American public.  If FOSS
>> is what the beast is sniffing at than FOSS it shall have... Stark contrast
>>  applies to the program copyright messages - the heart of darkness for
>> any project that wants to honestly use the term.  However many lawyers you
>>  want to pile on top of this document of copyright, in this forum we all
>> pretty much agree that the 4 RMS freedom elements must be present.  As I
>> understand it, these are:
>>
>> 1. You can compile it.
>> 2. You can run it.
>> 3. You can modify it.
>> 4. You can distribute your patches for other people to use.
>>
>>
>> However you slice it, American Public Radio Corporation, owner of
>> "Prairie
>> Home Companion" will be happy to seriously screw with you if you screw
>> with their program, and that is fine, they own it.  They have not licensed
>> it under the GPL, but I still like Garrison!
>>
>> It really is unfair to compare the Public Radio movement, started in the
>> "Great Society" era of LBJ's 1960's with the FOSS movement.  they have
>> nothing to do with each other.  GM is about owning and controlling very
>> large, expensive and relatively few antennas, transmitters, and
>> transmission systems.  These "destination gateways" are as past as movable
>> type presses.  They are prelude to open source programming at several
>> levels, and it is this terrible and miraculous present where we are
>> engaged.
>>
>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009, jonathan d p ferguson wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 5, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Stanley Brinkerhoff wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Its one thing to play fast and loose with broad definitions -- but to
>>>>  attempt to capture the good will of a development community, a
>>>> philosophy, and an entire mantra is in poor taste.  VPR may be
>>>> community driven radio --
>>>> but to call it "Open Source" only serves to discredit VPR in the eyes
>>>> of true FOSS developers, and to attempt to promote VPR in a capacity
>>>> it is not.
>>>
>>> Broadcaster confusion about Free vs FOSS continues... At the risk of
>>> promotion, see:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_(radio_show)
>>> http://www.radioopensource.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> In addition to other experiments in open content:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.kyouradio.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Just in case you hadn't heard about these "Open Source" radio
>>> projects... ;-)
>>>
>>
>> Finally, I apologize to Jonathan, Stan and everyone else that we have
>> merely scratched the surface with this topic so far.  For the Lurkers who
>> feel this off topic, I say fooey.  Nothing could be more on topic.
>>
>> For fun, check out program licenses for IBB, BBC, CBC, or Pacifica. BTW
>> my portions of this note are licensed under GPL II...
>>
>> How do you and Jonathan license, Stan?
>>
>>
>> Kindest Regards,
>>
>>
>> Paul Flint
>> (802) 479-2360
>>
>>
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