Jiří Zárevúcky wrote:
> On 09/23/2009 05:24 PM, "Andrés G. Aragoneses" wrote:
>> Jiří Zárevúcky wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/21/2009 10:52 PM, "Andrés G. Aragoneses" wrote:
>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>> Of course, what I'm talking about is about adding one more user choice,
>>>> not "removal of Mono" like the subject of the original thread is named
>>>> (especially if you consider that I work for Novell on some Mono class
>>>> libraries ;) ). At last, what you could say is "removal of Mono
>>>> runtime"
>>>> if we want to refer to this topic.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Andres
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You can't compile C# code with what Vala uses. It just wouldn't work.
>>> Ever. C# code is *designed* to work under GC and by replacing Mono with
>>> something different you achieve nothing. I can't believe people still
>>> bring up such topics.
>>>
>> Hey Jiri,
>>
>> (Short question: with "ever", do you mean even contributing patches to
>> the Vala Project?)
>>
>> Longer questions: many thanks for your input. Sorry but it's the first
>> time I see someone mentioning that C# is *designed* to work under GC. I
>> mean, of course I knew it was, but I didn't know that meant for sure
>> that it cannot ever work with a reference counting approach. Can you
>> tell me the exact bits of the C# grammar that would disallow this? I
>> mean, what's the fundamental difference between Vala language and C#
>> language (note I'm not talking about runtimes here) in respect to GC?
>> Let me guess for a sec: are the keywords "owned" and "unowned" related?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andres
>>
>>
>
> You misread me. I'm not talking about C#, I'm talking about code written
Hehe, well if someone says "C# is designed..." then I have to understand
that.
> in it. Changes you would need to do in C# program to make it work with
> GObject are far from trivial and certainly not doable by a compiler. In
> another words: porting program from C# to Vala is very difficult even
> for a human, and I'm not even beginning to think about reflection and
Right, then we're not talking about the same thing. Reflection is an
API, not part of the language.
> such. You essentially need to rewrite it completely, so if the similar
> syntax led you to believe this is achievable by compiler, you are quite
> wrong.
Thanks,
Andrés
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