Probably far too late in the process to come back and comment on this but I have a few general comments.
I really like the concept of wings etc and think of the logo marks, all but #4 are really very strong, to me #4 is the weakest and is only good. However, I really dislike the font used for VALA. I totally get that by reducing the number of strokes required to form the letters you are trying to evoke simplicity and lightness as shared qualities. For me it actually suggests a different, less accurate set of ideas: Only a few basic tools - 4 unique strokes build the entire word Very direct and angular - fast yes, elegant no. These would seem more to be the qualities of a low level language (assembler or c) rather than a modern, high level language. Vala provides lot's of tools and high level objects to it's users that should let us express ourselves in a much more elegant fashion. Appreciate these comments may be coming at the least helpful time and regardless the outcome will clearly be to a very high standard. On 31 August 2011 18:20, Tobias Bernard <[email protected]> wrote: > I totally agree with you that war isn't a good symbolism for this, it is one > of the reasons I deleted that proposal. > > The reason why I created it in the first place was the sound of "Vala": it > reminds "of Valkyrie" or "Valhalla" (and if you've read the Silmarillion it > reminds of the "Valar"), and ancient weapons are strongly connected to those > topics, so I wanted to try working on that. But since there are better > symbolisms (which also look better graphically :D), I deleted that proposal. > > I don't know if you've taken a look at the pdf, but there are several > proposals which communicate exactly what you said: lightness, easiness, > flying etc. > A flying carpet isn't a bad idea but personally, I like a wing better, > because it's less complex and easier to understand. > in case you've missed it: symbol proposals pdf > download<http://ubuntuone.com/p/1DBL/> > > kind regards > tobias > > 2011/8/31 Jim Peters <[email protected]> > >> Sam Liddicott wrote: >> > >2) The symbolism of "ancient warfare" is hard to >> > >understand. Probably too hard to be understood instantly by most >> > >people, so I put that proposal away too. >> > >> > The presentation is very good. >> > >> > I think that symbols of weapons, killing and/or warfare should be >> > avoided, having very current and unpleasant connotations for many >> > people in specific locales. >> >> War happens -- deal with it. But anyway, Vala is not about war, not >> even about posing with weapons, nor indulging in feelings of >> superiority or anything like that. Vala is practical and gets the job >> done. It is not an academic language made by purists or theorists. >> It doesn't seem to attract zealots or fanatics -- it is relatively >> humble in that sense. It makes life easier for those who use it -- >> compared to the alternative tools available to do the same job. >> >> Getting a good visual logo can be hard. When I was involved in >> OpenEEG, someone sent us a drawing of a levitating, meditating, >> EEG-wired GNU, which was really perfect and said everything: >> >> http://openeeg.sf.net/ >> >> However, a programming language is more abstract. Linux has a penguin >> mascot pictured with a bellyful of fish (according to Linus), which I >> guess represents a feeling of comfort. >> >> I wonder whether we can find a feeling connection for Vala? >> >> To me it is about flying above all the nightmare complexity of pages >> of boilerplate code that is required at the C level. So maybe >> Aladdin's flying carpet? Or something else to represent the ease and >> feeling of flying above complexity? >> >> Any other way we can represent this feeling? >> >> Or is there some other feeling we can associate with Vala? >> >> Jim >> >> -- >> Jim Peters (_)/=\~/_(_) [email protected] >> (_) /=\ ~/_ (_) >> Uazú (_) /=\ ~/_ (_) http:// >> in Peru (_) ____ /=\ ____ ~/_ ____ (_) uazu.net >> _______________________________________________ >> vala-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list >> > > _______________________________________________ > vala-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list > > _______________________________________________ vala-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/vala-list
