So 1 and 2 are the technical reasons against, both of which I can see. Point 3 is kind of a "don't confuse people who already do it the way it's done now", which is fair enough, even if I don't agree with it, but point 4 seems to be the killer, that they'd become "playable" once they were laid. No way to "fix" them once they're on?
The system as it stands is great if you're just setting up a scenario and playing, for me trying to design a scenario, you have to know a. what the overlay looks like and b. where on the overlay the "fixing points" (dont have the right terminology!) are. With draggable, rotatable ones, i could look at them, pick the one that looked best and plonk it down and drag it about to my hearts content. JMHO, but as is, it's too hard for me so it's back to boards and cards on the kitchen table, which is a shame. Cheers Ian --- In [email protected], "countermancx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Ian, > > 1st it's distribution - currently, mapboard overlays are a separate > download that are placed in <boarddir>\overlays\ - they are not > included in the VASL .jar or .mod d/ls. > 2nd it's programming - I don't have the chops req'd to access the > <boarddir>\overlays\<overlay zipfile>\<overlay imagefile> from inside > the VASL buildFile. > 3rd it's redundancy - what we've got now works ok (perhaps a bit > undocumented though), but if a new system got started, the old system > would still have to remain in place. > 4th it's playability - w/ the current system, the mapboard overlays > can't be selected / moved / cloned / deleted during play. Making them > into Draggable Overlays would make them 'playable' & could interfere > w/ attempts to select another on-map DragOver, which would be > obscured by the selection of the mapboard overlay. > > That said, it would be a simple enough task to create a sub-tab in > the VASL Draggable Overlays for Rotatable MapOverlays. But IMO the > disadvantages (#4 especially) outweigh the advantadges. > > W/ so many setup files available, the knowlege of how to place them > correctly is becoming a rarely-used 'lost art'. I think you should > stick w/ learning how to use the existing system, ask your VASL oppos > or post to war-forums for advice. I'm certain you'll be able to do it. > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Guys > > > > Asked this Q over on the WHQ forums without much in the way of > > enlightenment. Is there any reason why all overlays in VASL can't > be > > draggable , rather than having to specify board/hex etc? Guess > they'd > > have to rotatable, draggable overlays but that can't be too hard > for > > men of your obvious talents can it :) > > > > Seriously, I am no programmer so I have zero idea of the ease of > this > > but it seems like A Good Idea, especially for those trying to > design > > scenarios on VASL (which is what sparked this off for me, I just > wanted > > to try placing some overlays to modify terrain and gave up as it > was > > too cumbersome and frustrating for my tiny brain to cope with. > > > > Cheers and keep up the good work > > > > Ian > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/IMSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vassalengine/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
