On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Brian J. Murrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 19:16 +0000, Armindo Silva wrote: > > > > No they are not! They just can be run at the same time > > Wrong. The way the kvm package is installed on Ubuntu, they cannot be > installed at the same time because when the machine boots, the KVM > initscript makes running VirtualBox impossible. No point to having it > installed if you cannot run it -- again, assuming the regular user has > no root abilities (sudo or otherwise) on his machine. > Yes they can, you just need to disable kvm to load on boot. > > > I did not understand what you been by this. Of course i have root (in > > this case sudo powers) on my machine > > Good for you. I suspect you are a lone user sitting at home on your own > machine, which you installed yourself, yes? > > > and you should have to or you couldn't install either kvm or vbox. > > You really don't understand how corporate/managed environments work do > you? Typically your company's IT department installs and manages the > software on your machine and you, as a user, are not free to go install > what you want willy-nilly -- typically neither are you afforded root > access to mess up your machine. > I do understand. Yes, the machine where I run both is my workstation. I am a sys admin myself and before I install a piece of software on some server I do lots of testing, I dont just go and do and apt-get install on a live machine. So if your sys admin installed both and expects everything to work is because he/she didn't do some testing. > Giving users "admin" rights on their machines is the road to the type of > madness that Windows based IT departments face with users installing all > kinds of crap that destablizes their machines and brings in virii, worms > and trojans. Further, it escalates the TCO of user machines with > additional software needed to combat user ignorance and silliness and > the additional labour of having to go fix the machines once the users > have pooched them with the latest funky screensaver. > > > If you are a only on a machine that have both installed but vbox can't > > be used you should complain to your sys admin. > > Sure, my sysadmin *might* understand the incompatibilities between > VirtualBox and KVM, but then again, there are literally thousands of > packages available in Ubuntu. Is he to know of all of the various > mutual-exlusivities of them all? Of course not. > > That is why packing systems like dpkg/apt (and RPM and most if not all > others for that matter) allow the package authors, who *are* intimately > knowledgeable about the software they are packaging and what it's > incompatible with to help the sysadmin and describe conflicts in the > package itself. > > b. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > vbox-users mailing list > [email protected] > http://vbox.innotek.de/mailman/listinfo/vbox-users > > -- -- "The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible." Sir Arthur C. Clarke
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