On 05.02.2014 12:03, Jukka Tastula wrote:
Channels.conf (relevant part, i think) looks something like this

MTV3;MTV Oy=Digita 
Finland:482:B8C23D23G8M64N3S0T8Y0:T:0:305=2:561=fin@4,562=dut@4:5010;1073=fin,1074=dut:0:49:8438:8193:0
Nelonen;Sanoma Television Oy=Digita 
Finland:482:B8C23D23G8M64N4S0T8Y0:T:0:512=2:650=fin@4,658=dut@4:5012:0:65:8438:8193:0
Sub;SubTV OY=Digita 
Finland:482:B8C23D23G8M64N6S0T8Y0:T:0:353=2:609=fin@4:5010:0:97:8438:8193:0
Liv;Sanoma Television Oy=Digita 
Finland:482:B8C23D23G8M64N8S0T8Y0:T:0:516=2:690=fin@4:5012:0:177:8438:8193:0
Jim;Sanoma Television 
OY:658000000:B8C23D23G8M64N9S0T8Y0:T:27500:522=2:720=fin@4:0:0:129:8438:20481:0
Kutonen;SBS 
Finland:658000000:B8C23D23G8M64N11S0T8Y0:T:27500:523=2:655=fin@4:0:0:178:8438:20481:0

All of these tune fine. However if I set UpdateChannels to 4 (new channels)
or 5 (new transponders) after a couple of seconds it turns into this

MTV3;MTV Oy=Digita 
Finland:658000000:B8C23D23G8M64N3S0T8Y0:T:0:305=2:561=fin@4,562=dut@4:5010;1073=fin,1074=dut:0:49:8438:8193:0
Nelonen;Sanoma Television Oy=Digita 
Finland:658000000:B8C23D23G8M64N4S0T8Y0:T:0:512=2:650=fin@4,658=dut@4:5012:0:65:8438:8193:0
Sub;SubTV OY=Digita 
Finland:658000000:B8C23D23G8M64N6S0T8Y0:T:0:353=2:609=fin@4:5010:0:97:8438:8193:0
Liv;Sanoma Television Oy=Digita 
Finland:658000000:B8C23D23G8M64N8S0T8Y0:T:0:516=2:690=fin@4:5012:0:177:8438:8193:0
Jim;Sanoma Television 
OY:658000000:B8C23D23G8M64N9S0T8Y0:T:27500:522=2:720=fin@4:0:0:129:8438:20481:0
Kutonen;SBS 
Finland:658000000:B8C23D23G8M64N11S0T8Y0:T:27500:523=2:655=fin@4:0:0:178:8438:20481:0

and obviously those channels at 482MHz no longer work.

How is this useful and how do I make it stop? Keeping UpdateChannels at 3 has
been my non-solution for some years now but it's getting annoying when
channels seem to change their settings so infuriatingly often.

For testing, can you please remove the channels with 658000000?
Or, better yet, start VDR with a channels.conf that contains only one single 
line:

MTV3;MTV Oy=Digita 
Finland:482:B8C23D23G8M64N3S0T8Y0:T:0:305=2:561=fin@4,562=dut@4:5010;1073=fin,1074=dut:0:49:8438:8193:0

and see what happens.

Klaus

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