On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 01:51:00PM -0400, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com>
> > To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alo...@redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Yaniv Bronheim" <ybron...@redhat.com>, "arch" <a...@ovirt.org>, "VDSM 
> > Project Development"
> > <vdsm-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:33:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [vdsm] Recent changes in vdsmd startup
> > 
> > On 10/10/2013 07:47 PM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com>
> > >> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alo...@redhat.com>
> > >> Cc: "Yaniv Bronheim" <ybron...@redhat.com>, "arch" <a...@ovirt.org>, 
> > >> "VDSM
> > >> Project Development"
> > >> <vdsm-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:45:36 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [vdsm] Recent changes in vdsmd startup
> > >>
> > >> On 10/10/2013 07:43 PM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> From: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com>
> > >>>> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alo...@redhat.com>
> > >>>> Cc: "Yaniv Bronheim" <ybron...@redhat.com>, "arch" <a...@ovirt.org>,
> > >>>> "VDSM
> > >>>> Project Development"
> > >>>> <vdsm-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org>
> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:39:35 PM
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [vdsm] Recent changes in vdsmd startup
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 10/10/2013 07:38 PM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>> From: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com>
> > >>>>>> To: "Yaniv Bronheim" <ybron...@redhat.com>
> > >>>>>> Cc: "arch" <a...@ovirt.org>, "VDSM Project Development"
> > >>>>>> <vdsm-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org>
> > >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:37:14 PM
> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [vdsm] Recent changes in vdsmd startup
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 10/10/2013 05:38 PM, Yaniv Bronheim wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>>>> From: "Itamar Heim" <ih...@redhat.com>
> > >>>>>>>> To: "Yaniv Bronheim" <ybron...@redhat.com>
> > >>>>>>>> Cc: "VDSM Project Development" <vdsm-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org>,
> > >>>>>>>> "arch"
> > >>>>>>>> <a...@ovirt.org>
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:24:40 PM
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Recent changes in vdsmd startup
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 10/10/2013 04:32 PM, Yaniv Bronheim wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> Hey Everybody,
> > >>>>>>>>> FYI, Recently we merged a fix that changes the way vdsmd starts.
> > >>>>>>>>> Before
> > >>>>>>>>> that "service vdsmd start" command performed its main logic in
> > >>>>>>>>> addition
> > >>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>> related services manipulation, as configure libvirt service and
> > >>>>>>>>> restart
> > >>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>> for example.
> > >>>>>>>>> Now we are trying to avoid that and only alert the user if restart
> > >>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>> other
> > >>>>>>>>> operations on related services are required.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> So now when you perform vdsmd start after clear installation you
> > >>>>>>>>> will
> > >>>>>>>>> see:
> > >>>>>>>>> ~$ sudo service vdsmd restart
> > >>>>>>>>> Shutting down vdsm daemon:
> > >>>>>>>>> vdsm watchdog stop                                         [  OK  
> > >>>>>>>>> ]
> > >>>>>>>>> vdsm: not running                                          
> > >>>>>>>>> [FAILED]
> > >>>>>>>>> vdsm: Running run_final_hooks
> > >>>>>>>>> vdsm stop                                                  [  OK  
> > >>>>>>>>> ]
> > >>>>>>>>> supervdsm start                                            [  OK  
> > >>>>>>>>> ]
> > >>>>>>>>> vdsm: Running run_init_hooks
> > >>>>>>>>> vdsm: Running gencerts
> > >>>>>>>>> hostname: Unknown host
> > >>>>>>>>> vdsm: Running check_libvirt_configure
> > >>>>>>>>> libvirt is not configured for vdsm yet
> > >>>>>>>>> Perform 'vdsm-tool libvirt-configure' before starting vdsmd
> > >>>>>>>>> vdsm: failed to execute check_libvirt_configure, error code 1
> > >>>>>>>>> vdsm start                                                 
> > >>>>>>>>> [FAILED]
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> This asks you to run "vdsm-tool libvirt-configure"
> > >>>>>>>>> After running it you should see:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> ~$ sudo vdsm-tool libvirt-configure
> > >>>>>>>>> Stopping libvirtd daemon: [  OK  ]
> > >>>>>>>>> libvirt is not configured for vdsm yet
> > >>>>>>>>> Reconfiguration of libvirt is done.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> To start working with the new configuration, execute:
> > >>>>>>>>> 'vdsm-tool libvirt-configure-services-restart'
> > >>>>>>>>> This will manage restarting of the following services:
> > >>>>>>>>> libvirtd, supervdsmd
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> After performing: 'vdsm-tool libvirt-configure-services-restart'
> > >>>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>>> ready to start vdsmd again as usual.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> All those vdsm-tool commands require root privileges, otherwise
> > >>>>>>>>> it'll
> > >>>>>>>>> alert
> > >>>>>>>>> and stop the operation.
> > >>>>>>>>> Over systemd the errors\output can be watched in /var/log/messages
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>> Yaniv Bronhaim.
> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>>> Arch mailing list
> > >>>>>>>>> a...@ovirt.org
> > >>>>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> how will this affect the following use cases:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 1. i added a new host to the system via the engine.
> > >>>>>>>> at the end of the installation i expect the host to work without
> > >>>>>>>> admin
> > >>>>>>>> having to do any operation on the host.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 2. i update a host to latest vdsm version via the engine.
> > >>>>>>>> at the end of the update i expect the host to be updated without
> > >>>>>>>> admin
> > >>>>>>>> having to do any operation on the host

I think we've quite neglected a third case, of unattended `yum upgrade
-y`.

If and when we need to update BY_VDSM_VERS, this would result in a
failure to restart vdsm. How should we handle that? I do not see a way
other than adding libvirt-configure and libvirt condrestart to vdsm
%postin.

Dan.
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