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> I've read the YMTD article again and I have to admit the more I read it,
> the more I agree with what you're saying.
> 
> I started off with servlets, switched to JSP/Tomcat to avoid hammering
> out HTML out of Java, but I concur that the
> edit->transform->compile->load->run is really too much. I was caught on
> a number of occasions poking around generated Java code. And it's not
> supposed to be like that!
> 
> Valid point related to scope as well. I had trouble understanding it at
> first and I don't think your average web designer would at all.
> 
> What I dislike most is the fact that it is very true that Tomcat is
> sensitive to JSP changes and sometimes fresh .class file won't work with
> what's currently loaded. Solution, restart Apache and Tomcat (mod_jk
> needs Apache to be restarted as well). Now, in my situation this is
> possible, because I do the lot (I'm running my own small web
> design/e-commerce/hosting company), but thinking of the future, it would
> be a nightmare doing that every time a web designer fiddles with a JSP.
> My server would be down half the time!
> 
> So, I'm taking a real careful approach. I'll convert a few of my
> JSP/JavaBeans projects to Velocity and then we'll see how things are
> shaping up. You might have another convert on your hands after all...
> 
> Anyway, great work and keep on it!

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