Hey Nathan,

Glad you pulled this stuff out, I hadn't seen it.

+1

--- Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, since the original proposal i made for this was rather buried in
> a
> separate conversation, i want to give this proposal a thread of its
> own
> before i take action on it.
> ---------------------------------------------
> The gist of the proposal is this:
> 
>     Move the generic (i.e. non-struts) tools from the tools/tools
> package
> into the tools/view package and drop the tools/tools package
> altogether.
> 
>     The new package designation for these tools would be:
> org.apache.velocity.tools.view.tools.*
> 
>     One thing not mentioned as yet:  I'd also like to move the
> MultiViewsTool
> from org.apache.velocity.tools.view.i18n.* to
> org.apache.velocity.tools.view.tools.i18n.*.  I think that would be a
> more
> consistent organization.  Daniel, does that work for you?
> ---------------------------------------------
> So far the responses are:
>     - Committers in favor:  Nathan
>     - Contributors in favor:  Tim Colson
>     - Ambivalent or Opposed:  none
> ---------------------------------------------
> For those wondering why this has been proposed here's a recap of the
> discussion so far:
> 
> <nathan>
> you know, as i think about it, i'm not really sure why we even have a
> separate folder tree/jar/et. al. for the non-struts tools.  there's
> all of
> three useful classes in there, and one of them is already dependent
> on the
> view package.  i'm seriously thinking we ought to fold them into the
> view
> tree/package.  i think it'd be nice to cut things down to just
> VelocityView
> and VelocityStruts (or whatever you want to call them).
> 
> can anyone give a really good reason to maintain a separate library
> just for
> these tools?  after all, they are "view tools."
> </nathan>
> 
> <tim>
> Aren't the tools supposed to be able to live without
> VelocityViewServlet, so folks using other frameworks can leverage
> them
> without the extra baggage?
> </tim>
> 
> <nathan>
> yes, that's the idea.  but as i said, one of the four tools in there
> (ParameterParser) is already dependent on the view package (the home
> of the
> VVS).  so, if they want to compile the tools library or use the
> ParameterParser, they already need the view package.  so what's the
> harm in
> combining the two?  if they don't want to use the servlet-tied stuff,
> then
> they can just ignore it and use only the tools they want.
> </nathan>
> 
> I'll probably give this a week or so, and if there's still no
> opposition,
> i'll start making the switch.  I really think this is a good move to
> simplify things.
> 
> Nathan Bubna
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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