Correct me if i'm wrong, but LogKit is NOT required by
Velocity.  Some logging package which can be accessed through
Commons-Logging must be present, but there is no specific
requirement on LogKit.  Log4J, or JDK 1.4 logger, or even no
log package (in which case it will use the built in SimpleLogger)
can be used.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Kienenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 10:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 1.4 dependency jars


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1) velocity-<version>.jar : The Velocity jar that does not include
any external dependencies needed by Velocity, such as the 
jakarta-commons-collection classes, Jakarta Avalon Logkit, or 
Jakarta ORO. We do this to allow you to use whatever version of
collections, logkit, etc that you wish w/o fear of collision.
These jars are included in the distribution, in
the build/lib directory, or at the respective project sites.
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It's not clear from skimming the 1.4 docs which minimum/tested versions of 
the jar files are needed or what additional jar files are needed.  I'd also 
recommend that "Velocity, such as" be replaced with "Velocity, which are" as

the first suggests that "these, and more" are required, while the second 
explicitly states that "these, and only these" are needed.

In fact, here's my suggested rewrite [?no idea? needs to be replaced with 
the minimum version of ORO]:

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1) velocity-<version>.jar : The Velocity jar that does not include any 
external dependencies needed by Velocity, which are the 
jakarta-commons-collection classes (commons-collections.jar -- 2.1 or 
higher), Jakarta Avalon Logkit (logkit-1.0.1.jar or higher), and Jakarta ORO

(oro.jar -- ?no idea? or higher). We do this to allow you to use whatever 
version of collections, logkit, etc that you wish w/o fear of collision.  
These jars are included in the distribution, in the build/lib directory, or 
at the respective project sites.
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