On 9/29/05, Henning P. Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Will Glass-Husain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C5C4E8.0EFF3430 > >Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > >Hi, > > >Nathan's proposed adding a compile time requirement for JDK 1.4. (as = > >part of VELOCITY-403). > > >This would allow us to use include JDK 1.4 features (like JDK logging) = > >as pluggable options. Velocity would still run under JDK 1.3 as long as = > >the feature was pluggable and not the default (like JDK Logging). > > Hm. I'm not really sure about this. There _are_ known > incompatibilities with JDK 1.4 compiled jars under 1.3.
really? hmm. i hadn't heard this. what's the nature of the incompatibilities? i'm just curious if this is something that our users who still run 1.3 and yet want to upgrade to 1.5 (probably not too many, but i'm sure there will be some) will actually run into if one of their libraries is compiled with jdk1.4. > However, the only other package that implements JSR47 for JDK 1.3 that > I know of (Lumberjack Logging) is LGPL, so it is out of the question > to use for compiling. :-( > > I do see the advantage of having JDK 1.4 logging in Velocity 1.x. I > know that JDK 1.3 is pretty outdated and no one should use it. But I'm > scared to go to JDK 1.4 here, because our users will expect Vel 1.5 to > be a drop in replacement for 1.4. yeah, but if JDK 1.4 compiled stuff doesn't run reliably on JDK 1.3, then time is getting pretty short for JDK 1.3 users who want to keep upgrading their open source libraries. i see more and more moving to 1.4 or 1.5/5 (at least for compile-time, if not runtime) all the time. they really should upgrade their JDK. > >I'm okay with doing this as long as we're careful. Any other comments? > > I'm basically -0 on this but I'd like to hear more opinions. It (on a > different level) the same issue as with having a javax.sql.DataSource > dependency (with the difference that there is a jdbc-2.0.jar for JDK > 1.3). > > Best regards > Henning > > -- > Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH > [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/ > > RedHat Certified Engineer -- Jakarta Turbine Development -- hero for hire > Linux, Java, perl, Solaris -- Consulting, Training, Development > > 4 - 8 - 15 - 16 - 23 - 42 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
