Totally depends upon the rules and regulations in your state and the hospital policies. The rad tech association also has a scope of practice statements which do include PIV insertion and med administration. Lynn

At 8:22 PM -0800 3/7/06, Anna Liang wrote:
I was told it's not within the scope for the tech to
use line other than piv.
please verify. thank you

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 A new peripheral IV, 20G or larger in a large vein
 is still the safest way to power inject contrast.
 There is no way you can see or even feel an
 infiltration with a midline until it is at the "we
 need a plastic surgeon" point.  I work in Radiology
 now, and I would be surprised to find a Rad tech
 that would use a midline...many are still leary of
 the Power PICC, afraid that it will blow, because of
 the length of the line.
 Chris Cavanaugh, CRNI

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Tami Spaeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2006 6:33 pm
 Subject: Re: 5fr Midlines
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 > Here are some of my thoughts on power injecting
 through a midline.
 > When
 > using a peripheral IV in, say, the AC, the tech
 can feel the
 > contrast going
 > into the vein by palpating just proximal to the
 insertion site
 > and, at the
 > same time, watch for an extravasation. How can
 this be done with a
 > midline?
 > One would never know if it had extravasated since
 the tip resides
 > close to
 > the axillary vein.
 > Tami Spaeder, RN, BSN
 >
 > >From: "Cindy Schrum CRNI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > >Subject: Re: 5fr Midlines
 > >Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 17:28:54 -0500
 > >
 > >Why is it ok to power inject a vesicant when it's
 not ok to
 > infuse a
 > >vesicant through a midline? Somebody needs to
 help me with this one!
 > >
 > >Cindy Schrum RN CRNI
 > >IVTeam Coordinator
 > >Gaston Memorial Hospital
 > >Gastonia, North Carolina
 > >(704) 834-2707
 > >
 > > >>> "Richard Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 3/7/2006 3:43 PM >>>
 > >At our hospital the IR docs now do all PICC
 lines. There are
 > still a couple
 > >of us former PICC nurses who occasionally place
 midlines since it
 > doesnt
 > >require a trip to radiology. We do occasionally
 place a 'power'
 > midline by
 > >using a 5Fr single lumen power picc and cutting
 it to midline
 > length. I do
 > >the same procedure as if I was placing a PICC
 except that I cut
 > the power
 > >picc at the 20 cm mark prior to insertion. You
 have to pull back
 > the
 > >stiffening stylet so you arent trying to cut that
 as well and
 > then it
 > >sticks out and creates problems with maintaing a
 sterile field.
 > Last time
 > >I took the stiffening stylet clear out and that
 worked better. I
 > then
 > >insert it to the 5 cm mark, so 15 cm is in the
 patient. After I
 > am done I
 > >use a sharpie marker to mark 'midline' on the
 dressing and on the
 > skin,
 > >otherwise people will assume it is a PICC instead
 of a midline.
 > Then they
 > >can use this for CT contrast if needed. It works
 fine, but of
 > course you
 > >have the limitations of a mid!
 > > line--no good for vancomycin, TPN, etc.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >Rich Pearson RN MS CCRN
 > >Clinical Nurse Specialist
 > >Intensive/Post Intensive Care
 > >Alegent Health-Immanuel Medical Center
 > >Omaha, Nebraska
 > >402-572-3433
 > >
 > >
 > > >>> "julie bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/7/2006
 12:30 PM >>>
 > >We have always used single lumen 4fr cathteters
 for Midline
 > insertions at
 > >my facility.
 > > Are there any contraindications to using a 5FR
 single lumen
 > Midline?> Contemplating using the single lumen 5fr
 power PICC
 > and cutting for
 > >Midline.
 > > Thank you.
 > > Julie
 > >
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