I believe the standard was once necessary because of post insertion
bleeding at the site.  The nurses on our team rarely nick when using
MST and with the tapered piccs the site is usually clean.  We use a
second Chloraprep post insertion, add gauze only if the site is
bleeding and don't do the 24 hour drsg change.  We do daily site
checks, haven't seen a site infection in a very long time.

I don't believe the rationale is there anymore for doing the 24 hr
drsg change.  Not 100% of the time.  When practice and methods change
we sometimes have to look at other aspects of care and evaluate the
necessity.  I believe it's better not to take a dressing down that's
clean, and uncompromised.

On 7/21/06, Schwaner, Sandra L *HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I also remember hearing Marcia Ryder speak at AVA a few years ago about
biofilm.  That combined with my understanding of how bacteria multiply, and
how chlorhexadine works, leads me to believe that that 24 hour dressing
change can reduce by a significant amount the number of residual bacteria
and total colony count at the site.  Therefore, I see the 24 hour dressing
change as an added infection control measure.

Sandy Schwaner RN, MSN
Angio/Interventional Radiology
University of Virginia
Charlottesville

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Subject: Re: 24 hour dressing after PICC insertion





Gwen,

I think that I do the 24 hour dressing because there is usually bleeding at
the site some more than others and I don't like leaving that moisture on
there.  Studies, I don't know about.  I think that the moisture of the blood
against the skin and acting as a culture medium for bacteria growth seems to
be an adequate reason for me to change the dressing.  I don't know about
others but the first 24 hours we kind of bulk up the 2x2's over the
insertion site as part of the pressure dressing and it is more comfortable
for the patient if we can remove that at 24 hours. We occasionally leave one
that looks dry and intact for 48 hours or the next routine dressing change
if everything looks fine.  We do ours every 4 days because that what works
for us with our central lines and we have an extremely low infection rate.
We also use biopatches on 100 % of our lines and I'm not sure that we don't
loose some of the effectiveness if they are saturated with debris and
moisture.

Hope this helps.

Helen Lazeration, CRNI
Fairbanks Memorial Hospital
Fairbanks, Alaska

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From: Gwen Irwin
Date: 7/20/2006 6:15:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 24 hour dressing after PICC insertion

I have had a question posed to me about why a 24 hour dressing change after
a PICC insertion is required.  The CDC's Guidelines to the Prevention of
Intravascular Catheter Related Infections address gauze dressing used on
CVCs (includes PICCs, right?) need to be changed every 48 hours.

So, why do we require a 24 hour dressing change?  Every PICC course that I
have attended states this, but why do we do this?  I had to laugh when asked
this question, because I almost said "That is what we have always done."
This kind of response is what I battle often for many other CVC practices
(sound familiar?).  Is there evidence that the 24 hour dressing change for
PICCs is necessary?  Is there any evidence that a 48 hour dressing change
after insertion would change the patient's outcomes?

I value your perspectives and would enjoy hearing what you think.

Gwen Irwin
Austin, Texas




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