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Yes, there are countless benefits to advanced education,
and idealy the patient is the greatest beneficiary, but knowledge also carries
responsibilities. If we are expert in a specialty, through
advanced education, training, or certification, it is our responsibility to
remain current in that specialty, to share that knowledge/experience with other
professionals, and to give back and further that profession. In our chosen
specialty possibilities are almost endless; as physicians and nurses come into
clinical practice with frightfully little information or understanding of
IV therapy and vascular access.
But, I beg to differ with you Leigh Ann, I think you would
have plenty of opportunities to apply any new found psyciatric information on
your co-workers...
Nancy Costa CRNI
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Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 11:27
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Subject: Re: Education an patient
outcomes
I agree with what you are saying about advancing oneself with education,
but cannot dismiss the patient benefit. The more updated the clinician,
the more this information is applied in clinical care. I have already
used information I learned at the AVA conference to assist
with patient care, and have passed on tips to others.
I think one key here is to get information that applies directly to your
practice. If I attended a pediatric conference, or took a CE class on
something like psychiatric nursing, I could never apply it in real
life.
Leigh Ann
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Subject: Re: Education an patient outcomes
I hope you will allow me to play the devil's advocate here for just a
little bit as I can agree with that statement about education being
self-serving. By it's very definition, professional education is intended for
the benefit of the individual professional, thus the self-serving part. I also
know how difficult it is for nurses to pay for education themselves, but there
are advantages to doing this. When you are an independent professional, you
have control over the direction of your career without being dependent upon an
employer for "allowing" you to grow in the direction of their choosing. So I
see lots of benefits in nurses adapting this approach to their own education,
although I know that most still do not think in these terms. Maybe we should.
Lynn
At 9:49 AM -0400 10/4/06, Nancy Costa wrote:
Thank you Heather and
Amen!
Your experience mirrors ours and we
have invested considerable amounts of personal time and money to keep
up that fight for our patients! And no, the System has not
made it easy - ostensibly in support of education and certification - I've
been told repeatedly that membership in professional organizations,
remaining active in committees, going to conferences, presenting,
publishing, even educating is all
self-serving!
"On going education is a requirement to remain a
patient advocate and provide good patient outcomes." I'd like to see that chiseled in stone!
Keep up that good fight - our
patients deserve nothing less!
Nancy Costa CRNI
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From: Heather
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Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: New certification
Chris,
I cannot speak for Leigh Ann, but I do not remember
saying anything in my email to you that was confrontational or
defensive. It was long, so I sent it privately, and I do consider
you a colleague and friend. My email to you was my view and mine
alone. I believe I even stated as such at the end. Please
forgive me if it came across any other way.
I do not believe that being certified
and well educated has anything to do with working at a hospital, and
I am quite sure there is no perfect world. I work out on my own
quite a bit also. From your emails I am assuming that you do not
care for your job much, so why can't you work in a hospital? Why
would that be considered a luxury for you? I do not understand that
comment. If you think working in the hospital is so great, why don't
you?
I work my backside off at the
hospital. More so then any other job I have had. And by the
way, my hospital was far from progressive until my team and I started to
make it so. We have fought tooth and nail for everything we have
obtained and continue to fight on a daily basis to give what we consider
good patient care. If I cannot give good patient care and remain a
patient advocate, I would rather work at McDonalds. There are still
plenty of the "PICC stick and run" teams out there. I myself would
not work for one.
On going education is a requirement to
remain a patient advocate and provide good patient outcomes.
ANYWHERE. Certification is education. I never had anyone "pay"
for my on going education and/or certifications until I came here to U of
L, and they only pay for one per year. I pay for the other, in which
case is AVA. I had 5 certifications when I worked in the ER and
I maintained them all. I know Leigh Ann also has payed for her
conferences and such in the past. It is because we care to do
so. Some may not, and as long as they find their continuing
education somewhere, I guess that is ok, but I have not ever found good
education to be free. I just paid off my college loans (11 years
later) last month. YIPPEE!!! Getting only the "requirements"
these days just does not get it. I just paid off my loans and I am
already contemplating school again. Sometimes you have t o pay t o
better yourself.
So, again, just my opinion, but I
think it is a good thing, even if you have to pay for it, to get certified
in your field of expertise. Have a good week.
Your friend and colleague, Heather
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Leigh Ann, Heather, etc---can we just be friends? I am
not trying to be confrontational, just give my point of view. Maybe as a
hospital IV nurse, it would mean something to you to see a certification
of some sort from a sales rep, but as a sales rep, I know that my company
would not pay for it, nor would it mean anything to them if I got it on my
own. What matters is--am I making my numbers?...I am just trying to
stimulate discussion, and was not expecting such defensive
responses. Realize that every nurse, AVA member, etc has their own
set of views and experiences, and they may not be the same as yours.
We all do not have the luxury of working for a progressive, nurse run,
hospital based PICC team, or whatever the perfect world may
be.
Chris Cavanaugh, CRNI
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Date: Tuesday,
October 3, 2006 10:49 am
Subject: Re: New ce rtification
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