Midlines do serve a purose, usually better in the home setting. They are good 
lines if used appropriately, even for a month. The hospital setting may not be 
appropriate because non IV people may get it mixed up with a pICC very easily. 
But in home care, midlines are great for the appropriate meds. 

Victoria Sallese
VAT
Johns Hopkins Hospital

----- Original Message -----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: Midline guidelines from AVA roundtable
To: Alma Kooistra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> BS and Poppycock...........................
> Tired of you people that continually make those that use Midlines 
> feel that they are bad practitioners.  
> 
> OK,  Put your money where your mouths are........   Show us how 
> many Midlines you have placed....  How many you have had that have 
> had complications.... and then show us your PICC Stats as well.  
> Show us.  I have seen thousands of Midlines go a month without 
> complication.  Give me a reason to cross over!!!
> Give me a reason to stop defending their use!!!!!  And give me 
> your proof.....
> Not some article based on Bias.  An article not written by someone 
> associated with a particular Company such as Navigator or Sherlock 
> that wants every line placed to be a PICC so that they hawk their 
> wares.  Show me!!!!!!!
> 
> Show me your Data!!!!!  And I will stop arguing for Midlines.  I 
> know the Standards so please don't send me those.
> 
> You everloving Lightning rod.
> Randy
> 
> PS.  Alma sorry that it was your email responded too.  No offense 
> to you.  
> 
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> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Alma Kooistra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > We generally refrain from placing a midline in anyone who has a 
> potential of 
> >  >1 week of IV therapy, no matter how benign the infusate.  
> Personally, I 
> > think that anyone sick enough to need access >1 week probably 
> should have a 
> > PICC.  That's pretty 'out there' I know, and that philosophy is 
> not written 
> > in policy at my facility.  I just think it makes good sense, and 
> since I 
> > insert nearly all of the lines it's pretty easy to enforce.
> > 
> > Alma Kooistra RN, CRNI
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Midline guidelines from AVA roundtable
> > Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 12:31:44 -0400
> > 
> > Yes, I have seen the same thing.
> > Leigh Ann
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: Midline guidelines from AVA roundtable
> > 
> > 
> > This is a little off the original subject, but I have not seen a 
> midline 
> > that has lasted the length of treatment yet.  Just yesterday, a 
> patient came 
> > to the ED with a midline that was placed 2 weeks ago.  It was 
> leaking at the 
> > insertion site.  I spoke with ID and they said he needed 10 more 
> days of IV 
> > antibiotics and no, we couldn't change him to PO.  Originally, I 
> was talked 
> > into the midline because they weren't sure if he needed 2-3 days 
> or 2-3 
> > weeks, with the promise from both the MD and the PA that if the 
> treatment 
> > lasted 2 weeks, the patient would be readmitted.  Being the 
> patient advocate 
> > I am, I opted for a midline.
> > Long story short, I ended up putting a PICC in him yesterday in 
> the ED.  
> > This just reconfirms my belief that midlines are relatively 
> useless except 
> > maybe in CMO cases.  Almost every midline I've inserted for home 
> care has 
> > come back through the ED for replacement.  Does anyone else feel 
> the same 
> > way or have the same experience?
> > Not trying to start an argument, just wondering if anyone else 
> is having the 
> > same results with midlines as me.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Chris Cavanaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 6:54:25 AM
> > Subject: Midline guidelines from AVA roundtable
> > 
> > 
> > For those who could not open the original document posted, here 
> is one as a 
> > word document.  Thanks
> > 
> > Chris Cavanaugh, CRNI
> > 3606 Molona Dr.
> > Orlando, FL 32837
> > 407-928-9297
> > 
> > 
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