just because a vein is big enough i dont think  justifies putting in
something bigger than what is necessary for the therapy. a patient who
is just getting abx through a picc or some fluids doesnt need a huge
line just because you can get it in there. thats the same mentality that
motivates people to put an 18ga in a little old lady just because they
can. 

>>> "Kokotis, Kathy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/19/06 10:34 PM >>>
Maybe your radiologist is comparing the size of the vein and blood
flow
umder fluoro when they are choosing.  They have real time toys you do
not have
kathy 


 
 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raye Dillon
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 5:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: reverse tapering

i agree with you. i work on peds and we almost never use anything
larger
than a 3fr if the nurse inserts but when we send kids to IR for
placement (when one of our staff is not available) they come back with
garden hoses 4s 5s and sometimes 6s. that is totally unnecessary.

>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/19/06 9:21 AM >>>
I think we all need to look at why we think bigger is better. These
large 5 and 6 Fr caths are causing more thrombosis. What is wrong with
the 4fr being the  norm. unless we need double lumen caths. I am truly
concerned when I read that  there is now a triple lumen PICC. This is
especially true in the elderly  where the veins are smaller.
 
Raina Pegg RN

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