Hi William
Well it wont accept the settings, so I am going to look at:
 
1) Flash Backups
2) Try backup to disk
3) Use NTBackup
 
have a comparison to work with. I also have an Eval License of all
features! Hooray!
Quesiton: Can anyone confirm the best way to setup Flash Backups.
Running through the Beginners Guide now (Quick Start Guide), but need to
know of any "gotchas"! - Just learned it cannot do system volumes.
 
S.

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Real World NBU Buffer settings Win2k3



We use 262144 buffer size everywhere for both NET_BUFFER_SZ and tape
SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS (or Windows equivalent).  What I did find made a very
large difference when I was benchmarking an LTO4 drive (which has a 4Gb
FC interface) was switching between a 2Gb HBA and a 4Gb HBA - the
throughput nearly doubled.  That was testing with 'dd' not NetBackup,
but was going through the (Solaris) OS.  So I would see if there is any
way that you can up the speed, even if you go point-to-point and not via
a SAN switch to avoid having to upgrade your fabric [no use if you share
the drives with SSO!]

 

For Windows on FC you should find any modern FC driver will use the tape
buffer size that you set.  64k was with the Windows scsi driver, and for
some SCSI cards you might have to adjust the MaximumSGList in the
registry -
(http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/pipermail/veritas-bu/2006-February/083653
.html) and (http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetPDF.aspx/5982-9971EN.pdf).
More recent Adaptec driver install kits I have noticed do this for you.
You should be able to see in the bptm log what size is being used.  The
fact you say the tape would not mount if you change settings *is*
suspicious.  Make sure you have the latest drive/robot settings files so
your drives are properly set to variable block size.  Again bptm log
should help.

 

If the data is compressed on disk then I assume the Windows OS is having
to decompress on the fly as it reads the disk which is going to hit the
client quite hard on the CPU.  Not much you can do about that, but
FlashBackup would not have to do that so I'd say was worth trying.  Bear
in mind it will back up the entire volume, so you don't want to be
backing up a lot of empty space (though paradoxically that empty space
would compress nicely when it hits the LTO drive's h/w compression,
provided Windows is zeroing the blocks on file deletion...not sure if it
does this or even can be made to...otherwise you have a great disk
scavenger ;-) ).

 

William

 

From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER,
Simon (external)
Sent: 15 September 2010 19:00
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Real World NBU Buffer settings Win2k3

 

Hi All 
Anyone got any real world experience on buffer settings: 

scenarion: 
Win2k3 San Media, connected to 2GB Fabric attached 8 LTO4 Drives. 
Due to drive availability, Multiplexing onto one drive. 

Main problem: One volume (1,7tb in size) takes over 4 days to fully
complete. 
Got the Tuning Guide and Technote 244602, but I tried some settings,
only to find the backup would not even mount tape correctly.

So back to "no" settings at the mo. 

Volume are generic files/folders, mixture of large and small sizes. But
1.7TB's in my view should be done quicker. Also Data is compressed.

Regards 

Simon 

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