Don and all, who answered, thanks a lot for all suggestions. Why do I try to hackle with hair. Well, Iain was asking for a fly which uses deer hair. And therefore I thought, best will be to use as much hair as possible in the construction of the fly. I refused from spinning a body <G> Well, I found the trick: Use a larger hook. <G>, this allows for a larger hackle (longer hair), and the flies aren't masterpieces, but I try do find an angle for the photo, where the flies looks ok.
Patricks flies for the fir swap use a soft hackle in split thread (You remember, kangaroo), that wasn't too difficult, just this 'dry fly hackle' with deer, is a nightmare. Anyway, I call it a day now, (remember Europe is 6 to 9 hours ahead of Texas, Jimmy), and we are late her. Rene Don Ordes wrote: > Rene, use two different hairs- one to hackle and one to wing. > > When you are doing the wing, tie the bases down real tight, then gather the > wings > together (one at a time) with snug wraps around the base of the hair only, > like doing a post, only don't go very far up the wing- don't want to see the > thread. > > Then the hackle gets tricky, depending on the hair used. I started my fly > with the tail then the wings, then flare a hackle set behind the wings with > butts towards the bend, trim. This flares the hairs up against the back of > the wings, filling in between them. > > Then I did the bodies, covering up the hackle butts when I got there. Then > I'd do a rear-ward flare in front of the wings with the butts forward. This > sandwiched the wings and made a dense hackle. I could either then trim the > butts off or trim them into a deer-hair cone-head, like a small muddler. > > It's like hard-flaring the collar hairs on a muddler head, with the wings in > between. The contrast is what makes the wings stand out, length, density, > or color. Use you fingers to force the hairs into shape, then glue at the > bases to hold them. > > Why did I quit doing these? The deer just didn't hold up like hackles. > Then Dr. Tom took over Whiting and that was all for deer hackles. > > DonO > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rene Zillmann" <rene.zillm...@t-online.de> > To: <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:53 PM > Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle > > > >> Hi Don, >> I tried 'Comparadun hair', it is short and not hollow (I think), the >> stack and flare technique works, but I want to wing the fly.. >> Maybe flare, wing and.. >> Rene >> >> Don Ordes wrote: >> >>> I used to do deer-hair hackling long ago, but I just stacked and flared >>> it. >>> I could do up one and send you a photo. >>> Type of deer and location on hide is important. >>> >>> DonO >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Rene Zillmann" <rene.zillm...@t-online.de> >>> To: <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:37 PM >>> Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Gang, >>>> >>>> Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? >>>> I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer >>>> hair <G>, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. >>>> Hints? >>>> >>>> Rene >>>> >>>> BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
