Thanks a lot. Yeah, I have plenty of small diameter thread. But I always put (or try to) put, too much materials on. For example, one of the two 28's I carry in my wallet that I tied, has a squirrel's tail for a tail, and it took me forever to get down to the THREE hairs that made up the tail on that fly. If I used more (as I naturally tried to do) it was too bulky for the fly And I 'd never ever attempt something like a Royal Wolff, Adams etc. If it has more than three materials, (hackle head, body, and tail) I can't go any smaller than a 16 no matter what I do it seems, Chuck
----- Original Message ----- From: Pacres To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Tying Small Flies... A couple things you can try. At least an 8/0 thread, 11/0 or 14/0 is better if you can find it. I usually tie down in hook size to get a feel for proportion and technique. Tie a couple 12's then 14's then 16 etc... until you get the hang of it. Fewer wraps than larger flies, and sparser materials. It's easy to get too much on the hook. That's about all I got. lol Good luck. On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:48 PM, BILL JOHN <historyg...@yahoo.com> wrote: The thread size is very important. Iy you use 6 or 4 the head will be far too large. Less is best. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the smith's <aflyt...@comcast.net> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 9:01:55 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Tying Small Flies... How does that go? Something about tye, tye and tye again. Gary S ----- Original Message ----- From: Jc To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:41 PM Subject: RE: [VFB] Tying Small Flies... I regularly tie 18 through 24 It is just like tying the larger flies, the material has to be smaller, hackle, feathers. Also the use a thinner thread, 0/8 works great. If you have more questions, i can answer specific ones for you. jc -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chuck Alexander <chuckalexan...@hughes.net> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 8:34 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; fly fishing for panfish <flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [VFB] Tying Small Flies... Folks: I have a question on tying flies smaller than , say, a size 16. Or a size 14 in some cases. Like, how do you get all the materials tied into (or onto LOL) a Royal Wolff)??I have been reading as much as I can about bluegill fly fishing and fly tying,.and I was just reading about tying foam ants, and it said NOT to tie bluegill flies too small as the bluegill has a strong sucking power for insects that drop onto the surface of the water and they'd even take a size 28 in a foam ant and would hurt themselves as they'd swallow a fly that small all the way down their throat. So, it said to go to a bigger fly. like a size 18 or a 20. Well, I can barely even see a size 18 or 20 hook, even with my reading glasses on, much less tie a fly on one. Does anybody here tie flies regularly in a size 18 or smaller??? If so, what is your secret?? Thanks, Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. 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