P.S. I'm not sure why you highlighted Joyce's order for style 070 and Rene's 700 as they are both listed syles and as indicated in their messages, except Joyce want's size 14 not 16 in the 070 style. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada
_____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Neville Gosling Sent: July 31, 2010 5:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [VFB] Hook Swap Hi DonO Yes. I don't think that we had all the rules in place before the swap was started and I for one found it confusing although I participated in more than one Whiting Co-op swap. I must admit that I thought that you were ordering 10,000 hooks because you had back-up second options. Anyhow, I'll stay out and let Rick carry on. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Don Ordes Sent: July 31, 2010 4:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB] Hook Swap LOL, well I for sure don't want to buy 1000 of ALL of the ones I listed. (not right now anyway) Those were just my most-wanted ones. Green is a duplicate of ones I wanted for swapping. 700B could be used as a parachute emerger dry fly. For this to work, though, everyone has to agree on 10 styles & sizes, so that they would get 1/10th of each 1000 hook bag. That's why I sent in 10 picks. I won't get all of the ones I want, but I buy one of the bags. If you only pick one, then what are the other 9 that you'll be getting 100 of? What can you use for your type of fishing? Remember the Whiting Co-op swap: Had to have 5 swappers pick 5 different saddles to divide up (I thing it was 5). Then you got 1/5th of each saddle- variety vs bulk and much better pricing than the 10-paks. But these were dry-fly saddles all, a narrow range for a particular fly. Byard picked out lots of 5 by requests and availabily, like midge saddles, and 5 co-oppers signed up for each set. If you didn't want midge hackles or dry fly hackles, this was not your swap. That's why I had a narrow window of trout hooks, but I could branch out with other hooks I can use. Rick needs to evaluate the requests and negotiate the most favored hooks. Swappers must give a range and not be too dead set. Once he has 10 hooks styles in 10 sizes that 10 swappers agree on, he has a complete co-op swap. I will donate some hooks to Rick and some flies and make sure he has enough $$$ for S&H to make it worth his while. Hardest part- 10 swappers settle on 10 hook models and sizes. Send Rick the average cost of all hooks (once settled), so that you don't buy 1000 expensive hooks and get 900 less expensive hooks back. Pay with Paypal or direct to Rick. Send Rick a SABox with postage to be determined by Rick. Include in box whatever for Rick's efforts. End result is that you'll have 10 bags of 100 hooks of styles and sizes you want (1000 total) for around $45. My 'tip' to Rick will be a 5-hook kick-back of each size. Fair enough for the work he'll do. Once we work out the bugs, this method should work out as well as the Whiting swaps did. And there's no reason we can't do another Whiting Co-op swap, even is Byard is on a different venture right now. Saltwater SS hooks should be a separate swap for those in salt water. Name style size Peggy Brenner 700B 10 Joyce Westphal 135 16 " 070? 16 Rick Zieger 300 14 Don Ordes 320 10 " 320 12 " 320 14 Don Ordes 280 6 " 280 8 " 280 10 " 280 12 Don Ordes 270 4 " 270 6 " 270 8 Rene Zillman 270 12 Wayne Blake-Hedges 700B? 12 Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
