Hi Tony;

Must be a design flaw, mine was busted when I got it too!

I used a medium size safety pin with the ends cut off, works like a charm now.

Wayne

--- On Sun, 8/22/10, Anthony Spezio <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Anthony Spezio <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [VFB] Automatic fly reels
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 12:15 PM

Wayne,
I have one of these in the same box with my Auto reels. When I bought it, it 
did not work. The lever return spring for the lever was broken. I made a spring 
and it works now.
I am going to try to get those reels out one of these days. I have too much 
stuff in storage
Tony

--- On Fri, 8/20/10, Wayne Blake-Hedges <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Wayne Blake-Hedges <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [VFB] Automatic fly reels
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 9:09 AM

Hi Don;
 
I 
There's also the Pachner & Koller retreev- it you can pick up chep on ebay, no 
drag put it does retreive slack line pretty well. I have one and it works ok 
but, a little clunky.
 
  
http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-RE-TREEV-IT-FLY-FISHING-REEL-PACHNER-KOLLER-/380259502025?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0
 
Wayne
 


--- On Thu, 8/19/10, Don Ordes <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Don Ordes <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [VFB] Automatic fly reels
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 7:14 PM





Has anyone ever used the Franco Vivarelli semi-automatic fly reel?
 
It looks like there's no mainspring, but a levered gear that spins the spool 
and inertia takes the line in.
But does that work only on slack line?
 
http://www.sexyloops.com/tackle/vivarelli.shtml
 
DonO

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Don Ordes 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Automatic fly reels


Chuck,
 
When the reel is mounted on the rod, and the trigger is facing forward, what 
side of the reel is the mainspring on?  If it's on the right side, it's a 
right-hand.  If it's on the left, it's a left-hand.  
 
DonO

----- Original Message ----- 
From: charles connell 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Automatic fly reels


Don- I have an old one that i believe is set up for left hand. It appears to 
run in right direction if you hold it in right hand
                                                                                                                         
 Chuck Connell


On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Don Ordes <[email protected]> wrote:



Tony got me thinking and I visited an old stash of reels from way back.  And I 
found an automatic reel- amongst others.  Problem is, it's right-hand operation 
and I prefer to hold the rod in my right hand.  All the auto-reels I've looked 
at so far have been right-hand, also.
 
So does anyone know if they made a left-hand operation reel?
 
Tony, in your stash, are there any left-handers?
 
DonO
 
 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
To: [email protected] 



Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Automatic fly reels






Hi Don;
 
I always released all the tension after use and mine have held up well.  I 
purchased all off ebay, I typically just bid on ones that looked real good and 
have done quite well.  The only real maintenance has been a thorough cleaning 
and I always use hot sauce grease on the spring to lube after cleaning, a 
little goes a long way.  I've also heard boeshield works well just haven't 
tried it yet.
 
Here are a coupld on ebay:
 
   
http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-Garcia-Mitchell-710-Automatic-Fly-Reel-/370420631331?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0
 
brand new pflueger:
 
    
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pflueger-1195X-Purist-Auto-Fly-Reel-0-8Wt-/320558648961?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

 
Wayne
--- On Thu, 8/19/10, Don Ordes <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Don Ordes <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [VFB] Automatic fly reels
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 12:46 PM



Tony,
refresh my memory.  I remember when I had the auto reel, the OM said to take 
the tension off of the mainspring during storage to keep the metal from 
fatiguing and the spring losing strength.  I have seen a few for sale that the 
spring had little tension when fully wound up, and the left hand had to be a 
'helper hand' to retrieve line or a fish.
DonO

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Anthony Spezio 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Automatic fly reels





When retrieving the line and coming to the end ,especially when the leader 
comes through the tip top. The line speeds up enough to form a loop that wraps 
on the tip of the rod and "snap" the tip off. In the bamboo and early glass 
days, it was something that happened a lot when retrieving  the line at the end 
of the fishing day, it would be retrieved fast without thinking . You had to 
just "tap" the lever when retrieving the line so that it would come in slow. 
These reels were nutritious for jambing up if any dirt got onto them. If they 
did, the line could not be wrapped on the spool. When taking them apart to 
clean them, the retrieve spring would come out and "bite" you if you were not 
careful.. I have taken several apart and getting the spring back was a chore.
Tony

--- On Thu, 8/19/10, Allan Fish <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Allan Fish <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [VFB] Automatic fly reels
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 10:14 AM


> Hi Tony;
> 
> What do you mean by "tip breakers"???

If you are lucky enough to hook a really big fish, it will pull the line out 
till the automatic spring is fully wound up.  Then everything locks up. since 
they don't have slip clutches in them. That really big fish just keeps on 
heading down the pike and breaks the tip off your rod.

Tony's right on.  That's why I said "automatic reel" and "big fish" was an 
oxymoron.  They're mutually incompatible.


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