Wayne, I had to have a good chuckle about Dickerson's coming up on the used market. They are among some of the most collectible today. I would venture a guess that even in today's market you might be looking at $5000-10,000. But the tapers are publicly available and I happen to like them a lot. If you are looking at fishing collectible tackle, you really can't go wrong with Granger or Heddon. Both companies made excellent rods that are still today more affordable than a lot of mainstream graphite.
Scott On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges <wayneb22...@yahoo.com>wrote: > Hi Scott; > > Interesting, the quad you have and quads I've seen of Tony's all seemed > really light in my hands. They also felt pretty stiff and fast compared to > anything I've heard or seen in other bamboo rods. > > I've been surfing Clark's board and kinda researching as much as I could, > it seems like what I could glean was the Heddon two digit 8 1/2' to 9' rods > are pretty decent bass rods. I know whatever I try in bamboo will be more > than likely pretty heavy but hey, I'm going for nostalgia and my arm is > pretty strong. I have a 9 1/2' fiberglass Garcia 2406 and it's real heavy. > I can cast some really big stuff with it and I'm good for at least 2hrs of > leisurley casting before I know I need a break. > > Is the Dickerson 8014 Guide series a rod that's available on the used > market or, a taper that could be built? > > Wayne > > > i > --- On *Sun, 1/2/11, Scott Bearden <scott.bear...@gmail.com>* wrote: > > > From: Scott Bearden <scott.bear...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 12:28 PM > > > Wayne, > > I wouldn't say lighter. The have more mass than a hex rod of the same > taper. For throwing bass bugs I would pick a Dickerson 8014 Guide Series. > They were designed for one shot casts with heavy streamers from a swiftly > moving boat. You don't have time for a lot of backcasts in that scenario so > it is pretty much point and shoot. I made a 6wt version of that and fished > it for a couple of months before giving it to a friend. It had lots of > backbone. If you keep your eyes peeled on ebay you might get lucky and pick > up a heavy granger or heddon rod. But they still wont be cheap. Anybody who > knows what they have will set the price higher. The other problem is any rod > less than 9 feet goes for more because of scarcity. And you don't want a 9 > footer. > > Scott > > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges > <wayneb22...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wayneb22...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > Hi Tony & Scott; > > So, let me see if I have this right. Quads are more difficult to make but, > stiffer, faster, and potentially lighter than a hex rod? > Wayneb > --- On *Sun, 1/2/11, Anthony Spezio > <bambot...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bambot...@yahoo.com> > >* wrote: > > > From: Anthony Spezio > <bambot...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bambot...@yahoo.com>> > > > Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods > To: > vfb-mail@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com> > Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 9:55 AM > > > I hope posting about bamboo rods does not turn any one off. The list > needs some activity and at this time, this seems to be it. > Scott is correct about being more difficult to plane out. not as forgiving > as a Hex. > The rod that Scott is talking about is based on a Garrison taper that was > converted from a hex taper. > It is also twisted. It is the only twisted quad I know of that was made. I > like to play with things. I had it at the Catskill Rodmakers Gathering and > for three days, it would not stay on the casting rack. Someone had it out > casting it most of the three days.This rod also has the grip and seat made > from Corn Cobs. It has alternate dark and light strips when twisted looks > like a Barber Pole. I won the fishing contest up there with it and a Chili > Pepper. I had a friend casting it in my back yard and had a mishap. Broke > the tip on it. Some day I will be making a new tip or repair this one. > I generally make bamboo ferrules for my quads. On this one I made a quad > Nickle Silver ferrule with four slits. > Tony > > --- On *Sun, 1/2/11, Scott Bearden > <scott.bear...@gmail.com<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scott.bear...@gmail.com> > >* wrote: > > > From: Scott Bearden > <scott.bear...@gmail.com<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scott.bear...@gmail.com> > > > Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods > To: > vfb-mail@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com> > Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 12:09 AM > > Wayne, > > Quad rods are a little more difficult to make. The strips have to be wider > and are therefore a little harder to straighten with heat. Another > consideration is how to handle the ferrules. Most ferrules sold come round > and have 6 slits to accommodate hex rods. You could use one size larger > ferrules and build up the ferrule station a little thicker and then turn > that round. Or some rodmakers buy the ferrules without the slits cut and > swage them square and cut the slits themselves. There are lots of cons to > making them, which is one reason you see less of them on the market. The > edges also tend to fray and split easier and so you might wind up with glue > lines no matter how well you do planing it out. I know they don't bind very > well in a Garrison style binder which will bang those sharp edges a lot more > than a hex. > > As far as fishing them, quads tend to be stiffer and track straighter. But > all things being equal it really comes down to the taper. Tony made a sweet > little 4 wt quad that I thought cast a little better with a 3wt SA mastery > line. I still don't remember what taper he used, but it was sweeeeet. > > Scott > > On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges <wayneb22...@yahoo.com > > wrote: > > Hi All; > > Speaking of bamboo rods, what are the advantages/disadvantages of a quad > versus hexagonal shaped blank? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to > vfb-mail@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to > vfb-mail@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to > vfb-mail@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-m...@googlegroups.com> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1115.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. 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