Excellent!

On Wednesday, October 28, 2015, Don Ordes <[email protected]> wrote:

> *A balance of A & B,* and *education* for the newly interested- not only
> in fly-fishing and fly-tying, but in stream/lake/water etiquette (including
> manners).  Greed seems to be the root of many evils, and it’s partner is
> selfishness. We need both growth and control, and there may be a way.
>
> ‘River rage’ has become like road-rage. Too many people with un-relieved
> stresses (and medications) floating a river to relieve stress and then a
> few adding stress to everyone else they cross paths with. Bad mix with some
> bad experiences and then people start packing things besides lunches.
>
> *A thought for some yay or nay consideration?*
> *‘D’*   Should fly-fishing have a special fishing license *sticker* (like
> a conservation sticker) that gives the holder *added fishing privileges*
> when fly-fishing (as in C&R only areas or floating rivers), but in return
> requiring a mandatory education class (water safety, laws and etiquette,
> C&R practice) to go along with it, and before any technical training like
> casting.
>
> *Necessity-* Waters are over-crowded with regular fisherpersons, along
> with uneducated people or people without self-control and bad manners. Some
> fishermen drink to excess before fishing and lose judgment abilities while
> on the water (even wading a stream).
> *Reasoning-* Hunters get a hunting course to get a hunting stamp to carry
> a gun. Fishermen are also arming themselves- whether for self defense or to
> prove a point. Different world.
> *Benefit-:*
> *First,* may serve as a screening or weeding-out process to refine the
> ranks of fly-fishers.
> *Second,* would serve to educate fly-fisherpersons, and give them pride
> of distinction and an awareness of good manners.
> *Third,* would give them something to lose if they cross the line and get
> caught (or get reported). Having your fly-fishing tag revoked would be for
> guides and fishers alike, and could motivate people to be more civil and
> act more responsibly.
> *Fourth-* Would add jobs and services to the fly shops ($$), plus the
> responsibility of refining the growing ranks that they need for business,
> while relieving some of the problems encountered in the field. Does no good
> to grow the ranks if you also grow the problem. Shops benefit and have the
> responsibility.
> *Fifth-* Shops would adopt some policies to help out *in return* for the
> business benefits they receive by growing the ranks, namely some things
> that help with the over-crowding (and problems) created by the growing
> ranks. Along with fishing reports could be a fisherman number report,
> giving some crowding statistics and recommended windows of opportunity. As
> the ranks grow and hostilities flare, this may become a necessity. And if
> over-crowding is normal, like on season-opening day, fishers know what to
> expect and are educated.
> *State Game and Fish involvement?* To be discussed.
> *Federal Involvement*- none. State issues.
> *The guiding industry* -many times based out of shops, but not always.
> They add to the problem by bringing clients into other systems (rather than
> home waters) that are already over-crowded.
>
> *Counter-point*- another cost and regulation in an already regulated,
> expensive hobby.
>
> *Would the good outweigh the bad?* Hunters have to do it- why not
> fly-fishers? What about lure and bait-chuckers? Should they educate and
> stamp up to the plate?  ug...
>
> I also believe that if you’re going to benefit financially from this sport
> industry, you also have an interest and responsibility to grow it
> responsibly, or lose clients. Stamps would be a way to provide for some of
> the cost of education, which is never a bad thing.
>
> Again, *two sides*- *your thoughts*?  (I’d spring for the sticker if it
> was a state requirement.)
>
> DonO
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neville Gosling
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:03 PM
> To: VFB
> Subject: [VFB] More or Less?
>
> Do you think the fly fishing industry, as a whole, should invest more time
> and dollars into recruiting new participants to the sport of fly fishing?
> a. Absolutely. We need more people fishing, and that should be our number
> one priority.
> b. Absolutely not. The waters are crowded enough as it is. More is not
> merrier.
> c. The business owner in me says grow the sport; the angler in me longs
> for more solitude.
>
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>
> I was wishin’ I was fishin’
>
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