Alan, All of the spinning reels in my Cabalas mag have bails. None have bail-flips or ‘triggers’ (one-handed operation). None are bail-less models. There was a lot of confusion in the blogs because the posters weren’t specific about their comments on the 3 styles of reels. There was no discussion about closed-face spinning reels or the antique reels.
What I took away was ‘new’ (my own) knowledge of bail-less reels (the video), and some of the pros-and-cons about bail-flip triggers from those that use them, especially the anti-reverse slop to allow the bail to locate the line on top, which they thought made it hard to set the hook. Different views on durability, but equipment handling (abuse) and care is a big part of that. Many were big fans of the one-handed bail trigger, some liked the two-handed flip with full anti-reverse, but few knew of the totally bail-less type. To me, the bail-less is very close in design to a closed-face spinner, but without the case and with a bigger line-grabber. Neville, thanks for the ‘brainless’ reel photos. Very enlightening about the advancement of reel design and who advanced what. My first non-bait-caster was a closed-face spinner, followed by an open-faced reel, and I can’t remember if it was the Mitchell 300 or not. I’m going to have to try a bail-less model just to see if it’s better for chuck-n-wind fishing. But my big stuff (saltwater/trolling) spinners are bailed but trigger-less. I just bought a nice smaller bailed spinning reel without the trigger (wasn’t a triggered model on the rack), and I reely miss the trigger after fishing it- but that just me after many 1000’s of casts with the trigger. When I lure-cast spin-fished in Wyoming it was usually because fly-fishing was impossible, due to wind or cold weather (which required gloves), or boat-fishing with the family (trolling lures and flies). I also noted soft-type tackle boxes in the mag. Anyone have experience with these after having large plastic tackle boxes full of lures and gear? DonO From: Allan Fish Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 11:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB] QFTD- easy schmeezy... I don't get a Cabelas magazine, so I haven't seen the article you're talking about, but if you go to Cabelas on-line site and look for spinning reels, there are a bunch of them with bails. Admittedly the bails are hard to see because they are laying on the backside of the picture. In fact, I couldn't find one without a bail, although I did not look through all 23 pages of spinning reels. af On 1/17/16 10:54 AM, Don Ordes wrote: “what is easy?” Well, maybe hand the mess of fish over to the wife after, grab a cold one, watch foot-ball, and wait for fried fish and hushpuppies. Sounds easy enough for me. Unless you have her bring the beer and operate the remote... ;o) I know this is off-topic flyfishing, but, it is fishing. Just got my new Cabelas mag, and there’s not a single spinning reel with a bail-flip trigger. I’ve used these bail-flips for as long as they’ve been out, but only for lure chunking & retrieving with one-hand operation. Went on line to some blogs about bails without triggers, and it seems the opinions are divided between trigger users, bail flippers, and the ‘new’ no-bail at all users. I grew up with the manual bail flip (Mitchell 300s), but never had a bail-less model, so went to You-tube for a demo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQkHW00VJTQ Looks like it works, but I didn’t see any bail-less models in the mag, either. I figure if I can find out enough about the bail-less, maybe get one and see if I like it. Then, if two guys are fighting over which is best, I can settle the matter and win a No-bail Peace Price. DonO From: 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 9:01 AM To: Google Inc. Subject: [VFB] QFTD "If a man fishers hard, what is he going to do that’s easy? Roy Blount Jr "The Fisherman's Guide to Life" Rick -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. 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