No problem, no foul. I am just a cheapy. I am going to experiment with them cut 
from the plastic of Baxter IV bag material as well. Christmas orders must be 
finished first. Joyce

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> On Nov 29, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Pete Gramp <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Apologies, I didn't mean for it to come out poorly, I meant no disrespect.  
> Only wanted to see if we were speaking of the same thing is all.  
> 
> I've used hopper legs from River Roads and have had great success with them, 
> when tied as hopper legs.  I think I'll give it a try for tying in foam, 
> short, to make nymph legs from them.  I'm always open to new ideas and I 
> admit I never would have thought of that had you not mentioned it.  
> 
> Ever learning, with plenty more yet to learn,
> -Pete
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Joyce Westphal <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I just cut them to my liking. My fish do not seem to care. This is not to 
>> say that your lively legs may not work better. Joyce
>> 
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>>> On Nov 29, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Pete Gramp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> These Lively Legz are meant for nymphs, I believe, not hoppers, with all 
>>> due respect.  Perhaps we're speaking of two different products / leg types? 
>>>  http://livelylegz.com/collections/lively-legz shows what they look like.
>>> Respectfully,
>>> -Pete
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Joyce M Westphal <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I find hoppers work the best in early fall, end of July, first of August, 
>>>> and then fished right along the banks, never in the middle of the stream 
>>>> for me. Joyce
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Michael Bliss <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Let me know.  I am going to look for some sheets of silicon.  I have the 
>>>>> foam sheets and now to get the cutters.  Have you fished hoppers much in 
>>>>> Utah?  I have only had limited success.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 3:48 AM, Joyce M Westphal <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I use the 2 mm foam sheets and mark them with Permapen to my liking, 
>>>>>> usually with spots. I am going to experiment with the sheets you use for 
>>>>>> the backs of the nymphs and also with the slick Baxter IV bag material. 
>>>>>> This will take place after the Christmas fly boxes are finished..only 5 
>>>>>> dozen more flies to go.  I will let  you know how the IV bag ones work 
>>>>>> after I've tried it. The material of the bags is very similar to Thin 
>>>>>> Skin.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:55 PM, Michael Bliss <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Joyce,
>>>>>>> What do you use as material?  Foam?  If Silicon which I like best where 
>>>>>>> do you get the sheets?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Joyce M Westphal <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> These are great. If you wish to create your own, you can get leg 
>>>>>>>> cutters that work extremely well here. 
>>>>>>>> http://riverroadcreations.com/HopperLegs.htm J
>>>>>>>> A complete set costs $39.95 and you can use whatever foam color, 
>>>>>>>> touched up with Permapen you wish. Or, as Pete says, you can buy them 
>>>>>>>> from Lively Legz pre-made. I agree with him, legs on my flies seem to 
>>>>>>>> add a bit more action in this form than simple knotted legs. 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the update. Joyce
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Pete Gramp <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Anybody heard of these "Lively Legz" before?  it is a synthetic 
>>>>>>>>> product kind of like a silicone, similar to the legs that J:Son puts 
>>>>>>>>> out as nymph legs, but (strictly in my opinion, and not to knock 
>>>>>>>>> J:Son) I personally find them easier to work with, and for me where 
>>>>>>>>> I'm located they're cheaper per fly than J:Son.  Plus, being from 
>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania, USA, I have to support folks from my own state haha.  
>>>>>>>>> Seriously though, no affiliation to them, save for being a 
>>>>>>>>> ridiculously happy customer, I absolutely love these things, and I 
>>>>>>>>> find the purple flake color to have increased my fish catching rates, 
>>>>>>>>> when nymphing.  Maybe it is just my added confidence in fishing 
>>>>>>>>> these, I'll give you that, but it seems to have had a positive impact.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If anyone wants to try one or two for tying, or if anyone wants a fly 
>>>>>>>>> tied by me (I'm not a professional, but I'll do my best), just send 
>>>>>>>>> an email off-list.  I won't promise it'll be tomorrow that I get to 
>>>>>>>>> tying them up for you, honestly, but it will be soon, and I think 
>>>>>>>>> you'll like the results.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Again, not meant as an ad for them, and I have no affiliation with 
>>>>>>>>> them.  Just want to let folks see how awesome these things are.  They 
>>>>>>>>> are a game changer for my nymphs, and I now tie my nymphs with these 
>>>>>>>>> legs almost exclusively.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hope I didn't break any list rules by the offer, or by raving about 
>>>>>>>>> the product,
>>>>>>>>> -Pete
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