Keith,

you missed indeed the chance to meet me in the US!!!  However, we both live in Europe, maybe we can meet there sometime. Should not wait too long, I'm approaching my aspiration date - don't know it though.This long trip is really a topic - we expect a bit more than 24 hours. Need to change planes in Kopenhagen (Denmark) and Boston. however, it will be save for me as I'm traveling with my son.

It will be my forth trip to the Sowbug, the next probably when Roberts son is a bit older. At least this was his suggestion.

I'll try to send pics to the list.

Best wishes

Rene´


On 3/10/25 10:15, Keith Passant wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
I did it again! For the last two millenium I have been saying I want to go to the Sowbug. And I missed the chance again!! To coin a phrase DOH 😁 Tony used to ask me to come over every year but I could never afford to but hey ho. Problem now is being an oldster makes a 20 hour trip even more of an ordeal. This group of superstars was such a fun place back in the day. I would read the reports of the meet ups and meals at the various places. I think I recall Bull Shoals as a meeting place but am probably wrong.  I remember the first time you went out there Rene. There were some great folk there. Tony, Al Fish, Don O, Byard and many more whos names I forget. The swaps we did. I still have all those flies in boxes. I should frame them. The great thing about the swaps was how it helped improve and develop my fly tying. I just ran a two day tying course with Paul Little and it was awesome. The little swaps like the Caddis swap were great. Your fishing on the White Rene sounded awesome. And Tony's Chili Pepper fly is still one I use. Great memories. I hope you have a fantastic trip Rene and meet up with some of the old VFB'ers for a wonderful time. Safe travels my friend.
Best to everyone.
Keith.

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    Rene Zillmann <[email protected]>: Mar 08 06:21PM +0100

    Gang,

    not sure who is still reading the list, but anyway.

    This plan became reality, we will enter the airplane in less than 2
    weeks, stay 2 days in Mempohis and than drive to Mnt.home to do some
    serious fishing and than be at the sowbug.

    Who else will be there? I know from Peggy, Bruce Whittle. and Jeff
    Hines. Anyone else?

    Best

    Rene´ Zillmann


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    Neville Gosling <[email protected]>: Mar 08 09:33AM -0800

    Have a good time at the Sowbug Rene and enjoy fishing in Arkansas!
    I was there in 2011 and really enjoyed it. Unfortunately the
    original VFB members like Tony Spezio, Alan Fish and others have
    passed away, but the sowbug itself should still be very good and
    enjoyable.

    Unfortunately, with Trump in power and his plan to annex Canada, I
    likely will never visit USA again and I will move back to England
    if Trump is successful.

    Best wishes…….Neville Gosling, Greater Vancouver, BC Canada.

    Rene Zillmann <[email protected]>: Mar 08 07:54PM +0100

    Hi Nev,

    you are right, we lost a lot of members from the list and even the
    Facebook group is rather quite, even if Rick tries to keep it alive.

    I'm really looking forward to the trip. Everything is setup, flights,
    car, lodging. Hopefully we will not get ill in advance of the travel.

    Best wishes

    Rene´


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    Neville Gosling <[email protected]>: Mar 08 11:31AM -0800

    I agree, Rick Ziger has done an exemplary job of keeping the
    facebook group alive but it is not doing particularly well. Why? I
    think that there are so many other groups and diversions online
    and new people coming online will never have what we had when VFB
    was very popular when Byard Miller started it.

    Thank you Rick………

    Neville (Nev) Gosling

    Rick Zieger <[email protected]>: Mar 08 09:31PM

    I will not make SowBug this year. Rick
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    was very popular when Byard Miller started it.

    Thank you Rick………

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    Byard Miller <[email protected]>: Mar 08 07:30PM -0700

    I see my name has been mentioned. The memories of VFB and Fkyfish@
    are fondly and often in my mind. Sadly a scenario not to be
    repeated. By those of us involved I presume. We've lost many so
    close to our hearts. I hope we meet up with them all again when
    our time comes.

    On a personal update I've recently left behind snow shoveling and
    grass mowing for the south east climes of Arizona. Sadly no nearby
    trout or any fishing opportunities. But other interests fill in
    those voids and I can always venture into other near or far
    waters. I would like to seek out an Apache Trout sometime soon.

    It's nice to see there are some still monitoring the ancient VFB list.

    Regards to all my special friends!

    Keep tyin' … Byard

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    I will not make SowBug this year.

    Rick

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    Jack Harford <[email protected]>: Mar 08 09:39PM -0500

    This is Jack Harford, friend of Al Fish who introduced me to this
    group. I
    will not be able to make Sowbug this year as we are planning an out of
    country trip. Have fun, tie some flies, and land some pretty trout.

    Peace and Tight LInes,
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