Denis-
Our gracious host, Byard, is the best source through
Line's End. Can send you a sample pinch or two to try
out if you like.
-John
Oregon
--- denis goulding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don,
> Silly question but where can i get hold of some
> ice dubbing as i live in
> Ireland and have never seen the stuff before,any of
> u uk guy's know of a
> source..
>
> Thanks again..
> Regards,
> Denis.
>
>
> >From: "Don Ordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques
> >Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 20:01:50 -0700
> >
> >Rene,
> >You've hit the right technique for very clean, well
> defined segments. That
> >"dubbing from hell" that Bob sent had to be done
> that way, plus done so
> >that
> >then ends overlapped. The more linear the
> material, the cleaner the
> >segments will be- the more random the fibers, the
> bushier or fuzzier it can
> >be.
> >DonO
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Rene Zillmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 1:42 PM
> >Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques
> >
> >
> >DonO,
> >I discovered the same with my SLF. I was able to
> rope it, but if I tried to
> >make the fibers linear it was easier. I used the
> following procedure: Take
> >a
> >smal lump of dubbing and pull at both ends like
> making a noodle. Than fold
> >it in the middle and repeat the pull. Repeating
> this several times sorts
> >the
> >fibers in a parallel manner.
> >Dubbing prepared in this way roped eaier - at least
> for me.
> >I guess you can describe this better and have - for
> sure - the better
> >procedure.
> >
> >Roping in Germany
> >
> >Rene
> >
> >-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
> >Von: Don Ordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Datum: Samstag, 29. Dezember 2001 21:24
> >Betreff: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques
> >
> >
> > >Bob,
> > >If you want to drive people insane, give them
> this stuff to rope! The
> >key
> > >is getting the fibers linear and overlapping.
> Once you do that, you can
> > >rope the fly hairy, fuzzy, or clean. I'll send
> some photos.
> > >DonO
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Bob Haering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 1:12 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing
> Techniques
> > >
> > >
> > >> So DonO you going to tell me how to do it? I
> did warn you that it was
> > >some
> > >> nasty stuff!
> > >>
> > >> Bob H
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Don Ordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 12:48 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing
> Techniques
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > I've been able to rope everything so far,
> even that God-awful stuff
> >Bob
> > >> sent
> > >> > me.
> > >> > Learning the fundamentals is easy with those
> you mentioned, then
> > >graduate
> > >> to
> > >> > naturals and tuff stuffs.
> > >> > DonO
> > >> >
> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: Bud Cragar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 8:48 AM
> > >> > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing
> Techniques
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > Don,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I've been rope dubbing with ice dub. What
> are the requirements for
> >a
> > >dub
> > >> > > that will work with your method?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I assume that the dubbing materials must
> have long fibers. I see
> >that
> > >> you
> > >> > > use squirrel brite and SLF. Any others?
> I've never used either of
> > >these.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Bud
> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > > From: Don Ordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 9:46 AM
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing
> Techniques
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Rene,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > If you usually rib counter to the body
> wrap, you were probably
> > >looking
> > >> > for
> > >> > > > durability in that the rib was stronger
> then the body material
> >and
> > >> kept
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > cut material ends from unwrapping. When
> rope-dubbing, especially
> >on
> > >a
> > >> > > wire
> > >> > > > core, this is not a great threat.
> > >> > > > So if you want to gold rib a Gold-ribbed
> Hare's Ear, then just
> >rib
> > >> with
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > direction of the segments, and between
> the segments. If ribbing
> > >with
> > >> > > > tinsel, the segments will help protect
> the ribbing from being cut
> >by
> > >a
> > >> > > > tooth. Just tie your ribbing on when you
> tie your dubbing tip to
> >the
> > >> > hook.
> > >> > > > The end result is still true to pattern,
> and tough.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Ribbing with wire ( or clear mono) can
> also give you a few
> > >variations
> > >> if
> > >> > > you
> > >> > > > tie in other materials at the bend. If
> you tie on a shell-back,
> >you
> > >> can
> > >> > > > pull it forwards over the tail and rib
> over it for a shiny ribbed
> > >> > stonefly
> > >> > > > look theat still sports the fuzzy belly.
> Or tie a piece of white
> > >> floss
> > >> > on
> > >> > > > and make a white central line up the fly
> tail,
=== message truncated ===
=====
The River-
You passers-by, who share my journey,
You move and change,I move and am the same;
You move and are gone, I move and remain.
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Send your FREE holiday greetings online!
http://greetings.yahoo.com
