DON, Just ordered one but thanks for the info... Regards, Denis..
>From: "Don Ordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques >Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 21:17:30 -0700 > >It comes in bags and 12 compartment dispensers. Lots of colors, too. >DonO > >----- Original Message ----- >From: denis goulding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 8:01 PM >Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > >Don, > Silly question but where can i get hold of some ice dubbing as i live in >Ireland and have never seen the stuff before,any of u uk guy's know of a >source.. > >Thanks again.. >Regards, > Denis. > > > >From: "Don Ordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > >Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 20:01:50 -0700 > > > >Rene, > >You've hit the right technique for very clean, well defined segments. >That > >"dubbing from hell" that Bob sent had to be done that way, plus done so > >that > >then ends overlapped. The more linear the material, the cleaner the > >segments will be- the more random the fibers, the bushier or fuzzier it >can > >be. > >DonO > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Rene Zillmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 1:42 PM > >Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > > > >DonO, > >I discovered the same with my SLF. I was able to rope it, but if I tried >to > >make the fibers linear it was easier. I used the following procedure: >Take > >a > >smal lump of dubbing and pull at both ends like making a noodle. Than >fold > >it in the middle and repeat the pull. Repeating this several times sorts > >the > >fibers in a parallel manner. > >Dubbing prepared in this way roped eaier - at least for me. > >I guess you can describe this better and have - for sure - the better > >procedure. > > > >Roping in Germany > > > >Rene > > > >-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- > >Von: Don Ordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Datum: Samstag, 29. Dezember 2001 21:24 > >Betreff: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > > > > >Bob, > > >If you want to drive people insane, give them this stuff to rope! The > >key > > >is getting the fibers linear and overlapping. Once you do that, you >can > > >rope the fly hairy, fuzzy, or clean. I'll send some photos. > > >DonO > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Bob Haering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 1:12 PM > > >Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > > > > > > >> So DonO you going to tell me how to do it? I did warn you that it >was > > >some > > >> nasty stuff! > > >> > > >> Bob H > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Don Ordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 12:48 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > >> > > >> > > >> > I've been able to rope everything so far, even that God-awful stuff > >Bob > > >> sent > > >> > me. > > >> > Learning the fundamentals is easy with those you mentioned, then > > >graduate > > >> to > > >> > naturals and tuff stuffs. > > >> > DonO > > >> > > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > From: Bud Cragar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 8:48 AM > > >> > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Don, > > >> > > > > >> > > I've been rope dubbing with ice dub. What are the requirements >for > >a > > >dub > > >> > > that will work with your method? > > >> > > > > >> > > I assume that the dubbing materials must have long fibers. I see > >that > > >> you > > >> > > use squirrel brite and SLF. Any others? I've never used either of > > >these. > > >> > > > > >> > > Thanks, > > >> > > > > >> > > Bud > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > From: Don Ordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 9:46 AM > > >> > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Rene, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > If you usually rib counter to the body wrap, you were probably > > >looking > > >> > for > > >> > > > durability in that the rib was stronger then the body material > >and > > >> kept > > >> > > the > > >> > > > cut material ends from unwrapping. When rope-dubbing, >especially > >on > > >a > > >> > > wire > > >> > > > core, this is not a great threat. > > >> > > > So if you want to gold rib a Gold-ribbed Hare's Ear, then just > >rib > > >> with > > >> > > the > > >> > > > direction of the segments, and between the segments. If >ribbing > > >with > > >> > > > tinsel, the segments will help protect the ribbing from being >cut > >by > > >a > > >> > > > tooth. Just tie your ribbing on when you tie your dubbing tip >to > >the > > >> > hook. > > >> > > > The end result is still true to pattern, and tough. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Ribbing with wire ( or clear mono) can also give you a few > > >variations > > >> if > > >> > > you > > >> > > > tie in other materials at the bend. If you tie on a >shell-back, > >you > > >> can > > >> > > > pull it forwards over the tail and rib over it for a shiny >ribbed > > >> > stonefly > > >> > > > look theat still sports the fuzzy belly. Or tie a piece of >white > > >> floss > > >> > on > > >> > > > and make a white central line up the fly tail, and ribbing it >in > > >> place. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Try roping both a black and an orange rope tied in at the back. > >Do > > >a > > >> > > > cross-weave with the black on back. You'll get a fuzzy >segmented > > >> > > > over-'n-under stonefly body like a bitch creek. Many > >possibilities > > >> here > > >> > > > too. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Just a few ideas humbly submitted for your approval. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > DonO > > >> > > > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > > From: Rene Zillmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > > > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:38 AM > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Don, dd and others, > > >> > > > > this discussion was very informative for me. Thanks again. > > >> > > > > I rope-dubbed some flies with it and came to one issue. If I > >rope > > >> the > > >> > > dub > > >> > > > > very tight I run in problems with the ribbing material. I > >usually > > >> rib > > >> > > > > counterclockwise (opposite to the tying direction). As the >rib > > >> cannot > > >> > go > > >> > > > > into the dub it slips. Recommendations? Or simply: No >rope-dub > >if > > >> > > > ribbing.. > > >> > > > > Regards > > >> > > > > Rene/Germany > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
