try it each way and see what you like...8^)

----- Original Message -----
From: Rene Zillmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] mixing dubbing


Don,
thanks a lot. Do you suggest to use a regular sized hackle or should I use a
hackle, that is a bit oversized?
Rene
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Von: Don Ordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Datum: Sonntag, 10. M�rz 2002 17:14
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Rene,
Do your rope dub with a hackle tied in and waiting.  Rope up the dubbing,
then let off a few twists.  Take a dubbing teaser or brush and comb/pick as
much fluff as you want.  Now take your hackle and twist it up with the
dubbing as you re-rope tight.
Now wrap your rope and you get segments, fuzz, and hackle all at once.  The
haclke will have a totally different appearance, like it is really growing
out of the body, coming from all angles.  The more twists you make with the
hackle, the more hackle will show up in the fly. brush the finished fly to
getthe full effect of your fluffy dubbing.

Try roping different color hackles- nothing else- about four at a time, tips
tied down, very tight.  Then wrap forwards, holding back the forward-facing
tips as you wrap.  Instant fuzzy caterpillar.

Try roping a hackle with a couple of strands of micro chenille, and
wrapping. Another caterpillar.

DonO


----- Original Message -----
From: Rene Zillmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] mixing dubbing


Don,
PLEASE CONTINUE ANSWERING QUESTIONS:
I am currently tying some stimulators, I want the abdomen be very fuzzy. Do
you suggest to use rope-dub with SLF-dubbing - or better dubbing loop for
this?
Regards
Rene

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Von: Don Ordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Datum: Sonntag, 10. M�rz 2002 16:33
Betreff: Re: [VFB] mixing dubbing


>Well, I WAS going to make a suggestion, but after THAT remark...!
>
>My recommendation is to learn the rope dub method and add it to your
arsenal
>of dubbing techniques.  Blending and mixing your dubbings can be done for
>each fly as you tie.  Blending dubbings in a grinder gives a uniform color,
>whereas blending on your roping wire gives multicolor effects, with
>graduated shades, more like  the originals.  Adding sparkly dubbings like
>ice-dub late into the roping twist gives a shell-like appearance of
bubbles.
>Quick descent can be blended in for weight.
>
>I'm not alone in saying that once I 'perfected' the technique of rope
>dubbing, I haven't had to go back to any other method.
>
>There, whether you wanted it or not! My suggestion.  *G*
>
>DonO
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Larry Laub II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 8:08 AM
>Subject: Re: [VFB] mixing dubbing
>
>
>> hi every1 just thought that i would throw out my first list topic you
>might
>> know as 1fordman my ? is on mixxing dubbing i have not played with
dubbing
>> too much but i got some from my local fly shop and i like it its made by
>> riverborn and its called arizona simi seal it looks like it is mixed so
if
>i
>> want too mix my own blend what materials is the best to mix with as far
as
>> natural,sythetics so on so forth and what does a guy need to do the
>mixxing
>> process a coffe grinder ive heard and help would be great (except from
>DonO)
>> just kindin have a nice day
>>
>




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