With all due respect to Brian - who raises a wonderful point - I think that
it is great to consider alternative sources.  I spend a lot of money at my
local fly shop.  I have sent significant business to my local fly shop.  My
guru (read - owner of the local flyshop) has also helped me to get access to
materials suppliers once I wanted to go "commercial", thus undercutting his
own business to help me out with my tying.  The best source of information
for alternative materials that I know IS the owner of my local fly shop.  

I like to know where I can buy foam, wire, eyes, fur, etc. at better prices.
I also know where I can buy a rod or reel or float tube or waders, etc.  My
opinion iw - let me rummage through the refuse of society  (for free) to
find odds and ends to lash on a hook...and then spend the $100 (or so) that
I save on something bigger from the fly shop.  The owner of my local fly
shop agrees.

But - by all means - bring the owner good beer.....

Long Live the Local Fly Shop!!!

Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From: BRIAN VAN EREM [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 10:04 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: [VFB] Never buy this at the shop....
> 
> I think we need to consider this thread before we bash our local fly shops
> 
> and their prices into the ground.
> 
> My local shop provides me with a good bit more than Ziploc bags of pricey 
> goodies.  I have become good friends with the staff, and value their 
> opinions.  The advise I have received over the years would fill entire 
> volumes (and I say "would" because most of their knowledge isn't contained
> 
> in any book).  I enjoy the informal get togethers when, under the roof for
> 
> which they pay the rent, we talk for hours -- well after business hours.  
> They go out of their way to book guests for seminars, even if they break 
> even or lose money on the venture.  They schedule group trips and lessons 
> for newbies, and I guarantee they are not making the big bucks by this 
> either.  I participate in all the perks of being a patron of my fly shop, 
> and I will not balk at the minor inconvenience of a mild price hike.  Hats
> 
> off to the shop that will stock 16 colors, three packs of each, of a micro
> 
> chenille that they may only sell a handful in a year!
> 
> Try to find quality rayon chenille in the right sizes and colors at Wally 
> World!  Foam too!  You'll spend more in gas traveling from store to store 
> hunting materials than you would if you bought them from your local fly
> shop 
> in the first place.  Unwind an old TV, you'll get lots of fine copper
> wire!  
> A little arsenic too, but what the heck.  Dryer lint makes a good dun 
> dubbing.  Mix up a gallon of thinner, or buy a pint of varnish -- you got 
> more for less.  You can will it to your great grand children.
> 
> My point:  bring every dollar you own with you into that local fly shop!  
> Bring your check book.  Bring the plastic.  Bring barter.  Support the
> place 
> that provides you the variety of materials and the know-how to use them.  
> Spend when you are give river and stream reports, or the hot fly pattern.
> 
> Tip them and bring'em a beer on the holidays (and not that cheap stuff 
> either)!
> 
> My twenty bucks worth!
> 
> Brian
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Byron Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: [VFB] Never buy this at the shop....
> >Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 12:07:31 -0500
> >
> >I know everyone loves their local fly shops and if you're like me
> >you should leave your wallet in the car when you go inside or
> >it will be empty when you come out. SO...
> >With the Chenille Swap in full swing it occurs to me that
> >we need a thread not on alternative materials (which we sometimes have)
> >but rather on things/materials you should never buy at a fly shop because
> >there is a much better and cheaper alternative source.
> >
> >I'll start off with these...
> >
> >Chenille is $2-3 at the fly shop for a few yards or a life time supply
> for 
> >the
> >same price at the fabric store.
> >
> >Why pay $2-3 for a 18" of bead eyes when you can get them at the
> >fabric store for 40 cent a yard? or the lighting store if you want metal 
> >ones.
> >
> >Shrink tubing from an electronics store
> >
> >
> >Now lets see the list expand....
> >Copper wire?, Wing cases?...Other things...etc.
> 
> 
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