Well then...that sounds a lot better.  Sounds like MO is in a similar
situation to GA...not enough trout, only we don't have enough smallmouth!
Fortunately, we have enough stockable streams with sufficient public access
and a pretty good DNR (Dept of Natural Resources) so that streams such as
you described have not been necessary.  Although if such could be set
up...and we could do something about the bubbas who view trout stocking as
free protein from the government.

Neal Gilchrist
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Tucker
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:41 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [VFB] Rod/Tresspass Fees for Put & Take Fisheries
>
>
> Neil:
>
> I agree completely with your email.  However, for instance, the
> play that I
> am visiting this saturday started as a "pay by the pound," but has really
> been overwhelmed with fly fisherman and for the majority
> (probably close to
> 90% of all people I have seen there) are C&R and he even has a
> C&R section
> of stream that is a separate branch than the pay by the pound area.  So I
> think that some of those fish are holdovers -- at least according
> to thier
> manager.  The biggest reason I pay to fish these areas is the crowd (no
> crowd b/c limited number of rods per day) and that there is a
> real chance a
> large fish (have watched a friend catch a 7lb rainbow).
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Neal Gilchrist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [VFB] Rod/Tresspass Fees for Put & Take Fisheries
> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:11:53 -0500
>
> It really depends on how those private streams are managed.  If they are
> handled like the private "per pound" ponds around here, I would find them
> less than exciting.  They are primarily "meat markets" for people who want
> to say they "caught" the fish they are eating rather than buying it at the
> grocery store.  For me, part of the fun of fishing is the challenge of a
> fish loose in a stream.  Down here in Georgia, they are all stocked fish,
> but there IS a difference.  The private streams around here are all C&R
> only, really trophy streams where you have a reasonable chance for one or
> more 20"+ fish that will test your equipment as well as you skill.
>
> But to fish in water that's overstocked for the purpose of selling fish is
> apt to become boring soon enough.  That type of water are best
> fished with a
> Zebco and corn though it does offer a way to get familar with some aspects
> of fly-fishing.  What it doesn't do is demand of you the
> refinement of your
> presentation that would be necessary to catch an even semi-wild fish.
> Catching a 9" fresh stocker is fun, but to catch a 16" fish that has "held
> over" from the previous year gives you a sense of accomplishment that a
> trout pond can't match.  Just wait until you hook into about two feet of
> trout that's survived several years in the stream and is nearly
> as wily as a
> stream-bred. wild fish...WOW!
>
> Neal Gilchrist
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Tucker
>  > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:24 AM
>  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > Subject: [VFB] Rod/Tresspass Fees for Put & Take Fisheries
>  >
>  >
>  > I have a question for those of you on the board.  I live in
>  > Missouri and do
>  > all of my fishing (thus far) in the Missouri Ozarks.  Most of the
>  > streams I
>  > fish are managed as put and take fisheries by the MDC (although
>  > they do have
>  > "special management areas" managed for trophy fish, thier
> survival is at
>  > best minimal).  The majority of my fishing is C&R, but keep a
> fish or two
>  > every so often (depending upon where I am fishing).  Missouri has
>  > 4 "trout
>  > parks" that are managed by the MDC on a put and take basis
> where you must
>  > buy daily tags, etc.  We also have some rivers below the parks
>  > that are the
>  > "special management areas."  Also in Missouri there are a few privately
>  > owned streams that do the "pay by the pound" for the fish you
>  > keep, or you
>  > pay a flat fee ($30 - $60) for a day of C&R.  I tend to favor the
>  > later, as
>  > there are not the crowds like in the parks or on certain sections
>  > of rivers.
>  >   I do like fishing the rivers and parks during their specified
>  > C&R seasons
>  > though.
>  >
>  > Given the status of the fisheries I am fishing, what is the difference
>  > between paying the daily fees to fish at an MDC managed trout park or
>  > fishing at a privately managed trout stream.  I tend to believe
>  > there really
>  > isn't one, although a few of my fishin' buddies act like I am
>  > fishin' in a
>  > barrel when doing the private C&R thing. Is the "your just fishin' in a
>  > barrell" comment valid, and is it as common in other states?
>  >
>  > Just Curious,
>  > Matt Tucker
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
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