Hi Keith,
where abouts in Scotland? Will you get as far north as Shetland?
All the best
Graeme.

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Passant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [VFB] Was: Content of a trout Now:Bibio pattern


OK of to Scotland in June. So will try some of these Lite Brite bibio's.
What colour lite brite? Red?
Reveal all you stocky basher you ! LOL
KP
----- Original Message -----
From: "denis goulding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 1:12 PM
Subject: RE: [VFB] Was: Content of a trout Now:Bibio pattern


>
> use it with a lite brite middle and fluo green tail massive stocky
murderer
> in the milands on a size 10-12 o the middle or tail ,and small sizes on
the
> western lakes with a red or orange middle and a green tail,tied small from
> 16-12 hook on the tail even in a big wind...
>
>
> Regards,
>   Denis..
>
> >From: "Kevin McClean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: [VFB] Was: Content of a trout Now:Bibio pattern
> >Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 19:26:10 +0100
> >
> >We use the Bibio fly extensively here in Ireland.  It is used during our
> >first big hatch of the year.  The "Duckfly" is a large non biting midge.
> >The Bibio is especially useful during this hatch.
> >
> >Kevin
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of graeme-callander
> >Sent: 16 May 2002 11:56
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: [VFB] Was: Content of a trout Now:Bibio pattern
> >
> >
> >Hi Keith,
> >I agree with you about Oliver's Bibio and his use of Latin. The Irish wet
> >fly I was talking about is a different beast altogether.
> >I am not so sure it represents a small fish. Until trout learn to speak
we
> >will probably never know, but my tying of a Bibio on small hooks - size
12
> >down - and its colouration and that it is most successful during black
> >midge
> >hatches lead me to suspect that one of its representations is black
midge.
> >All the best
> >Graeme.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Keith Passant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:32 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [VFB] Was: Content of a trout Now:Bibio pattern
> >
> >
> >knowing how Mr edwards thinks he probably gave the Latin name for the
> >Hawthorn fly which is Bibio Marci.
> >The Bibio in the last few post's is a wet fly that really does not
> >represent
> >a real fly at all. More likely to be a fry pattern.
> >The hawthorn fly is a fly found suprisingly enough on Hawthorn bushes
here
> >in the UK and hatch around the late part of April. They are the first
> >landbred fly that trout take as they are very poor flyers and get blown
> >onto
> >still and running water easily. the patterns you describe are Hawthorn
> >patterns.
> >My 2p
> >KP
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Rene Zillmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:53 PM
> >Subject: Re: [VFB] Was: Content of a trout Now:Bibio pattern
> >
> >
> > > Interesting. I found a Bibio pattern in Oliver Edwards book. It is
> > > construkted from black foam, white yarn and some black feather fibers
> >for
> > > legs.. He added a variation, called the Hawthorne fly. It has red
legs.
> > > (really, no kidding).
> > > Probably the legs migrated to a red spot?
> > > Regards
> > > Rene
> > >
> > > -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Keith Passant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Datum: Dienstag, 14. Mai 2002 19:44
> > > Betreff: Re: [VFB] Content of a trout
> > >
> > >
> > > >More stillwater secrets revealed ! No wonder we lose the WFFC EVERY
> >time
> >we
> > > >take part ! LOL> Damned good fly the Bibio. And as usual lots of
> > > variations.
> > > >Still think the best one is the original red spot but the orange spot
> >comes
> > > >right behind it, then there is a pearl version and as you say the
> >Hopper
> > > (UK
> > > >style) version.
> > > >KP
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Paul Marriner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:42 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [VFB] Content of a trout
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Re: Bibio. Recently had a virtual conversation with an Aussie that
> >found
> > > >> a fly brought down under by John Horsey (stillwater expert). It's
the
> > > >> Bibio Hopper and they have found it very effective. I've seen
> >slightly
> > > >> different versions of the body: red in middle or rear two-thirds
> >black,
> > > >> front third red. The Bibio Hopper has a throat of golden pheasant
> > > >> tippets, a wide flat silver rib, and a soft black hackle at the
> >front.
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >> Paul
> > > >> --
> > > >> Paul Marriner
> > > >> Outdoor Writing & Photography. Member OWAA & OWC. Author of
Atlantic
> > > >> Salmon, Ausable River Journal, Miramichi River Journal, and Modern
> > > >> Atlantic Salmon Flies.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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