Clarification: I consider 'deceivers' to be a style of fly, not a pattern, whereas 'Lefty's Deceiver' is a pattern based on a style. A fine point, but must be made for my post to make sense. DonO
----- Original Message ----- From: Don Ordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Deceiver Proportions > Rob, > This is really a 2-part question from you: > 1. What are the proper proportions for a deceiver? > 2. What is the proper hook for a deceiver? > > Answers: ( IMHO of course ) > 1. Since a deceiver is meant to imitate baitfish, the length, color, and > proportion should match the bait that your intended game fish are feeding > on- i.e., sardines, menhaden, mullet, or whatever. Check out the 2nd issue > of the Art of Angling and go to the last article for a rundown on awesum > hair patterns. But from clousers, deceivers, and on up to giant streamer > patterns, the trick is to imitate a baitfish with a flyfisherman's > abilities/equipment in mind. Although simple is good when it comes to > patterns, one must use whatever it takes to entice takes. I have found that > motion and speed of retrieve is crucial, then flash and color. Saltwater > game fish seem to hit anything if it is moving fast enough, as baitfish are > really fast swimmers. Surface flies need to raise a lot of commotion to be > really effective. > > 2. The hook you choose can be as important as the fly you tie on it, but > given that, most hooks will work to a certain degree. It's just that some > hooks have certain qualities that lend better to a certain situation. Of > course, saltwater hooks need to be corrosion-proof. Then they need to be > strong, sharp, and properly shaped for the quarry. I like semi-circle hooks > in double extra strong wire for mid to large flies (4" to 6" long), and for > trailer hooks on 6" to 12" long flies. Long-shanked hooks tend to bend or > twist out on very strong fish or fish that twist a lot when they fight. > Short-shanked hooks hold better and are tougher for the fish to bend, but > trust me, even they will be bent occasionally, even the extra-heavy wire > models. I prefer to tie larger saltwater patterns with a trailer hook and a > short wide-gapped front hook rather than a long-shanked hook. > > My 2 cents > > DonO > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rob Blomquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:42 PM > Subject: [VFB] Deceiver Proportions > > > Getting the obvious out of the way, I would say Jimmy is the biggest > deceiver, > as he really is a twelve year old little girl named Amanda in New Orleans. > > With that out of the way, I am wondering about how you saltwater guys > proportion deceivers. I see them tied on Mustad 34007 but that seems to be a > long hook for a pattern that is just a collar and a tail, without any body. > > I have been kicking this around for awhile, and I am wondering if there was > an > accepted solution for it. > > Rob > -- > Rob Blomquist > Kirkland, WA > > On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section, it > said > 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux and lived happily ever > after. > >
