Deb- I'll swap you a Carie Stevens style fly? Though I understand that if this gets any size to it it may get out of hand. Tom Aufiero
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Deborah Duran Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [VFB] Flatwing Style Flies Doyle I'm almost caught up on my fly swap tying. In about a week or so I should be all caught up. Let me know if you would like to swap a fly or two. Do you tie any of those beautiful Maine streamers by chance? Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Duran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Flatwing Style Flies > Del > I just looked at your link. I spend a lot of time there also. Those are > more Maine streamers. Kens flies aren't tied on fresh water streamer hooks. > They're saltwater flies and are tied on very light weight 1x short hooks. I > have seen some people use the Trey Combs hooks also. Those hooks are a > little heavier than I use. The more weight the hook adds the more it will > effect the way the fly works. My husband uses a sinking line with these. My > friends are trying to teach me to fish but I have two very young little boys > so I haven't had as much time as I would like to learn. I'm working on > throwing a saltwater fly rod now. Although I can tie a mean bass bug. I > try to do this when my children aren't around as I'm sure many of you that > spin deer hair have some idea about the language content involved. > Deb > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deborah Duran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 5:00 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Flatwing Style Flies > > > > I've been avoiding this one. I learned how to tie flies in here in Rhode > > Island so these are the first flat wing flies I've been exposed to. There > > are other flat wing designs so I know the name creates confusion. "These > > differ from the original flat wing design in that the feathers are tied in > > at the tail rather than at the head. This allows the fly to plane or > > suspend and swim with a lifelike side to side undulation." (Ken's Words) > > Now my words. Most patterns also have feathers tied in at the head so > there > > isn't a gap between the head and the tail. He refers to them as > > presentation flies. They catch fish with simple strip retrieves. They are > > not meant to be sturdy or long lasting flies. The type of person who ties > > these would be the kind of person who just enjoys tieing. Ken is very > > artistic. If you pulled up the Web sight I previously posted you'll notice > a > > lot of the pictures of his flies and hackles in his store are watercolor > > paintings. There are a lot of locals that post pictures and patterns of > > their own flies. He encourages people to take this in their own direction > > and share. I've picked up a lot of my fly tying inspiration from his web > > sight. > > Deb > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 3:42 PM > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Flatwing Style Flies > > > > > > > Del- > > > > > > The Spey and Dee styles are obviously very similar to > > > the flatwing styles you're showing. Spey wings are > > > kind of "tented" over the body and Dee wings spread > > > out in a "V" shape. Regarding the Ken Abrames style > > > flies, the only thing I can think of is that the > > > hackles (wings) are tied more or less flat on the > > > shank. They're not posted or lifted up off the shank. > > > > > > Maybe Deborah can shed some light on it. > > > > > > -John > > > Oregon > > > > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Here is a link to what I know as "flat wing" style > > > > flies: <A > > > > > > > > > > HREF="http://www.globalflyfisher.com/streamers/swaps/flatwing/index.html";>Fl > > atwing > > > > Swap - > > > > Index Page</A> . As you can see, there is a great > > > > difference to them and what is > > > > being discussed. > > > > I comment on this purely out of curiosity as > > > > to how the large "flat > > > > wing" streamers that you are talking about got the > > > > same name sake as these > > > > flies. > > > > I can see how "my 'flatwings'" got theirs, > > > > could someone enlighten me > > > > as to how the streamers did as well? > > > > > > > > Delbert (Del) Roberts > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Belton, SC > > > > <A > > > > > > > > HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/dragonsheart1004/myhomepage/profile.html";>My > > > > little spot on the River of Life</A> > > > > <A HREF="http://www.dnr.state.sc.us/";>SC Department > > > > of Natural Resources Home Page</A> > > > > <A HREF="http://www.flyfishingworld.com/";>Fly > > > > Fishing World.com Home Page</A> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > The River- > > > You passers-by, who share my journey, > > > You move and change,I move and am the same; > > > You move and are gone, I move and remain. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > > > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > >
