Hi Chuck-

Thanks for emphasizing this, I don't want anyone to
think I originated this idea, that's why I mentioned
the Westfly swap and that the guy who started it there
had borrowed the idea from FAOL, which he gives them
credit for. 

Hope the the subject line "New Swap Idea" isn't
misleading, just meant it was new to me and maybe new
to VFB, at least I haven't seen a swap like this on
the list before.

                        -John
                         Oregon


--- Chuck Dowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FAOL is doing it with materials  I believe they have
> two boxes going now
> Chuck Dowling
> 
> "Great Spirits Have Always Encountered Violent
> Opposition From Mediocre
> Minds"  A.E.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:17 PM
> Subject: [VFB] New Swap Idea
> 
> 
> > Okay, folks, let's get back to our roots. Flies
> and
> > swaps. I just joined a swap on another list I hang
> out
> > on, Westfly, which is a list for ff'ers from
> northern
> > Cal, Oregon, Washington, Idaho and Montana. Before
> I
> > outline the swap, let me say that the guy who
> started
> > it on Westfly borrowed it from FAOL, so I don't
> feel
> > like I'm plagiarizing his idea. Apparently, the
> FAOL
> > swap started with tying materials, but I'm
> thinking we
> > can do it with flies. The one on Westfly is for
> flies,
> > too.
> >
> > Let's say, just for example, we start with 10
> people,
> > each person ties three flies and sends them to me.
> Out
> > of the 30 flies, I take the ones I want and
> replace
> > them with at least the same number I took (or more
> if
> > I want). The flies I put in don't have to be the
> same
> > as the ones I orginally tied and they don't have
> to be
> > all the same. I then send them to the next person
> on
> > the list. That person can take as many or as few
> flies
> > as he wants, but he must replace them with at
> least as
> > many as he takes (or more). He then sends them on
> to
> > the next person who does the same and so on.  The
> > number of flies in the box will gradually increase
> or
> > at least remain the same while the mix of flies
> will
> > change. Remember, the flies you put in can be
> totally
> > different from the flies you originally tied.
> > Theoretically, if no one cheats the box could go
> > around perpetually with different flies each time
> it
> > comes to you.
> >
> > I know this sounds kind of weird, but I think it
> might
> > be interesting. This wouldn't work with any group
> > except one like VFB, since it depends on basically
> > fair, honest, upright and just plain fine folks,
> > exactly the like the ones on this list.
> >
> > Anyway, if there's any interest in this, let me
> know.
> > If anyone has any suggestion, please say so. Don't
> > want to have too many restrictions or rules, would
> > like to keep it to trout flies and of course no
> > ridiculously easy flies, since it's not fair to
> > everyone else. If you think this a crazy idea,
> don't
> > hesitate to say that, too. Once the box has gone
> > around a few times, we could, with the vote of
> > everyone involved, donate the flies to a cause or
> > maybe auction them off and donate the money to TU
> or
> > FFF or or the Boy Scouts or see just how long we
> can
> > keep it going.
> >
> > Okay, that's it. Please post your responses to the
> > list so everyone can get a feel for how this crazy
> > idea goes over. If it looks like there might be
> enough
> > interest (I'm thinking at minimum ten people),
> I'll
> > post a deadline and so on.
> >
> > One last note, 10 participants was just a "for
> > instance" kind of thing. I we had say, 25 tiers at
> 4
> > flies each, it would make a real nice variety to
> start
> > out with.
> >
> >                          -John
> >                           Oregon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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