Its been a while since I've tied up any Deceivers, but I do recall one
thing that I believe might help you.  I started taking a bunch of krystal
flash that when doubled up will produce the appropriate density for the
throat.  If you bend that bunch of krystal flash over the tying thread and
then use 3 or 4 wraps of thread to put everything in place and distribute
it neatly, the throat winds up being held in place very securely and there
aren't as many wraps of thread building up a big fat head.

Its probably not quite the answer you were looking for, but it might help a
little!

John Roth






"Ken Staples" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12/19/2002 01:03:00 AM

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Subject:  [VFB] Lefty's Deceiver: tying question




Hi Everybody,



I wanted to get some advice on tying Lefty's Deceiver. I'm having a problem
with the head of the fly. The body seems to look okay but the head comes
out really long. It's almost like I'm tying a cockroach (which I guess is a
modified deceiver?). I think my problem is tying the bucktailcollar & wing.
Maybe I get too much on there and therefore I tie it farther back? I'm
trying to tie the bucktailso it doesn't overlap the eye (reducing what I
would have to cut out). It just seems like there's a bunch of material to
fit into that little bullet head (3 clumps of bucktailand the flash
throat). Any ideas?



Thanks,



Ken, FL










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