Joyce I do have that book, what page is that on?  If I am reading you right your 
saying not to wind the hackle on, but to lay the fibers in a soft loop around the 
hook, distribute them evenly with my finger nail and then cinch down, correct?  

john 


"Joyce Westphal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Do you have the Flytier's Benchside Reference handy..there is a neat
>reference to how to tie in the feather, even if the barbs are too long with
>the barbs facing towards the hook bend, then pull it forward a bit and tie
>it down when the barbs are the correct length. Do this a bit loosely and
>don't tie off, then use your fingernail to work the barbs uniformly around
>the hook shank and now crank down and tie them tightly. I've used this
>method on lots of flies 16 and smaller and it works great. Be careful not to
>gett too many barbs if you're tying spiders. Joyce
>
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