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http://www.gf.state.az.us/frames/fishwild/idx_fish.htm Alan Di Somma Phoenix,Az. http://www.azod.com http://www.azflycasters.org/ http://www.wmonline.com/attract/lakes.htm http://www.wmonline.com/attract/streams.htm "Tips for the Clueless" If you're in the armed services and it's April 1st and you get an e-mail message to call Col. Sanders for new orders, don't. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] WAS soft hackle question; NOW small feathers for SH flies : if i remember the site correctly (been a while since i : was there), they offered gambel and california. i have : a couple california quail skins and don't know if they : are another name for the mearns quail or not. : : dj : : --- Alan Di Somma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : > Don: : > : > Which Quail? Gambel's or Mearns? : > : > Alan Di Somma : > Phoenix,Az. : > : > http://www.azod.com : > http://www.azflycasters.org/ : > http://www.wmonline.com/attract/lakes.htm : > http://www.wmonline.com/attract/streams.htm : > : > : > "Tips for the Clueless" : > When your PC says "You have mail", don't go to the : > company mailroom and look : > for a package. : > : > ----- Original Message ----- : > From: "Don Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:17 PM : > Subject: [VFB] WAS soft hackle question; NOW small : > feathers for SH flies : > : > : > : soft hackles and small feathers... : > : as has been suggested, starling and hen necks are : > : good. metz, whiting and spencer all have fine : > product : > : to choose from and are available in lots of places : > : including our favorite...linesend.com : > : : > : let me offer this as well: www.hideandfur.com and : > get : > : yourself a california quail. the ones i have : > bought : > : are a very nice shade of blue-dun with steel blue : > tips : > : and the feathers from the neck could probably be : > used : > : down to a 20 or 22. a beautiful way to tie a bloa : > or : > : watchet and the best part is the skins are under 4 : > : bucks (or they used to be)! : > : : > : there you have it...i just relinquished one of my : > : best-kept, secret materials sources even though : > lots : > : of people know about it or they wouldn't be in : > biz. : > : : > : until later... : > : dj : > : : > : --- Rene Zillmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > wrote: : > : > I use Metz hen necks for small soft hackle and : > for : > : > dry wings. On the : > : > 'ear'-corner are really small ones. Don't have : > hen : > : > necks from Whiting, guess : > : > they are much better. : > : > Ahhh... I forgot, I have a cheapo hen : > neck/saddle : > : > from Pardridge, has small : > : > ones too. : > : > Rene : > : > : > : > -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- : > : > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > : > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > : > Datum: Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2003 00:37 : > : > Betreff: [VFB] soft hackle question : > : > : > : > : > : > > : > : > >I want to add a soft hackle to a couple of : > nymph : > : > patterns. The problem I : > : > am encountering is that most of the stuff i have : > : > seems to be better suited : > : > for 14 to 16 flies and up of course. Now with : > that : > : > said I have not "tried" : > : > all the feathers i have at my disposal. Can you : > : > fine folks make a : > : > suggestion? I want to have a small soft hackle : > on : > : > some red fox squirrel : > : > nymphs, pheasant tail nymphs and a couple others : > in : > : > sizes 16 and 18. Now, : > : > the materials that I have at my house "in stock" : > you : > : > might say are: India : > : > hen necks, partridge, grouse, metz hen saddle : > and : > : > pheasant rump. : > : > > : > : > >DonO if you read this, Whiting has a : > beautifully : > : > speckled patch that is : > : > black and grey. Substitute for partridge. What : > is : > : > the name of that. Chris : > : > helm was selling them at the tying expo this : > winter : > : > and I was going to buy : > : > one but I had just received a partridge skin, so : > I : > : > didnt buy it. Now I wish : > : > I had it because I think that that speckle would : > : > look real nice. : > : > > : > : > >john ridderbos : > : > : > : : > : : > : ===== : > : : > http://www.geocities.com/salmn8r/caddisforkids.html : > : : > http://www.geocities.com/salmn8r/furledstinger.html : > : : > : Please e-mail direct for scheduling and pricing : > information of fly tying : > presentations and seminars for your club or group. : > : : > : __________________________________________________ : > : Do you Yahoo!? : > : Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up : > now. : > : http://mailplus.yahoo.com : > : : > : : : ===== : http://www.geocities.com/salmn8r/caddisforkids.html : http://www.geocities.com/salmn8r/furledstinger.html : : Please e-mail direct for scheduling and pricing information of fly tying presentations and seminars for your club or group. : : __________________________________________________ : Do you Yahoo!? : Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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