Mike-

I've been looking at this knot ever since it got mentioned on the list. It looks like it gets major points for ease of tying, but is it really that secure? Just asking, I haven't had a chance to try it out on the water yet. It just looks unreliable. To me it appears to be a variation on an overhand knot and depends on being tight against the eye in order to hold. Seems like if you had much of a tussle with a fish it could easily work loose.

If you look at it, it's an incomplete figure-of-eight knot. If you take the tag end and run it through the loop that was formed when you made the first turn around the standing part, you will have a completed figure-of-eight loop knot with the tag end coming out parallel to the standing part instead of at a right angle.

Just curious as to how many people use this knot on a regular basis and how it does for them. I'm hoping to get out this weekend and I will definitely give it a try.

                                                         -John

 

 Mike Bliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Tom,

I have used it since that article. I have had fewer failures than with any
other knot. It is also so easy to tie that I can do it quickly and even
with frozen fingers. I have learned to leave a tiny extra tag when trimming
and as I said before with flourocarbon even a bit more (maybe 1/8th inch) as
it seems to slip more than regular tippet. I recommend it highly. And as
Jimi posted, the picture of how to tie the knot is
http://www.flyfield.com/knot.htm.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Davenport" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Davy's Knot.. Quick knot


>
> On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 05:35 AM, Desert Eagle wrote:
>
> > I think the name of the
> > knot is Davy's knot but I am not sure.
>
> Yes, it is. I finally found the article, in the April 2000 issue of
> Utah Outdoors. The article was by Geoff Samples, son of Bear Samples,
> a noted fly casting instructor in our area. Davy Wotton taught Geoff
> the knot when he was a participant of the 2000 "Team USA for the World
> Youth Fly-fishing Championships". He says "I have used this knot in
> competition without a single failure, and in 12 months I've only had
> one knot break in hundreds of hours of use".
>
> My experience with the knot has not been as good, I have lost some fish
> because of the knot coming unraveled. Perhaps the extra loops I use
> actually weaken the knot. I hold the tag end against the fly and pull
> it tight. Geoff uses his teeth, which would change the position of the
> leader slightly when it is tightened. Significant? I don't know.
>
> I tried to attach a small .jpg showing how the knot is tied, bu it
> kept bouncing back. If you would like to see it send me an e-mail off
> list.
>
> Tom Davenport
>
>
>

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