This has got to stop!!!!!!!!!! It is very obvious that a lot of you don't know John. Otherwise you wouldn't have the gall or ____________, (you fill in the blank). John is one of the most helpful tyers I know it was my pleasure and honor to share a table with him at last years Michigan Fly Tying Expo. Let me tell you he went out of his way to help people. The pattern is question is not one of his own so how can you expect him to share it. I have private patterns that I have talked about on list. Some have the pattern others do not. When you are asked to keep something to yourself you should do so! If VFB is going to devolve to what other lists are; I know that I won't be apart of it.
Bob Haering [EMAIL PROTECTED]
