Mr. Ridderbos
Dear John, we fellow MICHIGANDERS have to and will stick together, so for
now, hear this. My name is Scott J. Crosby and you know me as
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  or as my Friends call me Crow.
I am new and very new at VFB, I am a 40 year old rookie in the sport of
Fly Fishing and would like very much if you would take time to consider
the following thoughts. After I read your comments you made to your
Fellow VFBer's and saw there response's I would say that you shouldn't
have even consider leaving this list, if nobody else needs you , which by
the way is not true we all need you, at least stay for the guy's like me
that don't know SQUAT !!!!! Now I see you have a lot of Friends behind
you and they have made there thoughts known to you. A TRUE Friend will
stand with you and He or She will also tell you the truth ,even when it
hurts so here are a few things to consider before you leave us.
1.) The bible SAY'S that THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!!!!!!
      From Me to You:   SO LET IT SET YOU FREE!!!!!!
2.) You can make some people happy most of the time , but you can't make
everyone happy all the time. You will go nut's trying
     From Me to You: Take the Load off yourself, and don't worry about
what other's think , Your actions speak louder than words.
3.) Even Jesus had secrets and he asked people not to say or do certain
things.
     From Me to You: If Jesus's can have secrets , so can you.
4.) Anger is from the enemy, and you played right into his trap.
     From Me to you: Let go of the anger, even if it is justified, it
takes away from your ability to tie an AWESOME SECRET FLY.
5.) Last but not least, Your long time friends as well as rookies like me
need you to stay, and if you go who will I have to teach me the
hendrickson's I'll need to maybe come fish with you someday.
Signed: The new guy on the river, One for all and all for one!
Scott Crosby- The Crow
P.S. As for those who speak when perhaps they should'nt, REMEMBER
THIS!!!! and you know who you are!!!!!!!
1.) A wise man considers his words before he speaks!
2.) Even a fool is thought of as perceptive, when he keeps his lips
SHUT!!!!
3.) NEVER MESS WITH A FELLOW MICHIGANDER!!!
Stick around John !!!! see you in the chat room!!!!!  



On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:09:49 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I think that this whole thread has gone way to far.  I have gotten 
> emails 
> attacking my willingness to help others, that is complete BS.  Ask 
> anyone on 
> this list and they will tell you that I am one of the first people 
> to respond 
> when questions are asked.  So far I have only gotten these type of 
> responses 
> from people who's email I do not recognize as long standing 
> contributors 
> i.e.: lurkers.  If your going to attack my credibility or whatever 
> for not 
> sharing my number on fly last year maybe you should take a look in 
> the mirror 
> and start adding some value to this list yourself!
> 
>     My number one fly last year was the Jim's Special tied by Mr. 
> Jim 
> Burbank, some of you know him as Troutman in the chat room.  When 
> Jim sent me 
> this wonderful fly he told me to keep it to my self.  I soon saw why 
> because 
> it is a simple to tie fly and very effective.  My number one fly 
> could well 
> have been a damn black spider for all you people care.  It is not a 
> life and 
> death situation, having to know one persons number one fly.  In the 
> same 
> email I declared my number one fly, I also told everyone that the 
> sparrow, 
> created by jack gartside was my number one fly for the four years 
> previous to 
> this last one.  But only a few people even cared to check that one 
> out. 
> 
>     This whole situation disheartens me about this list.  I do my 
> part every 
> day to respond and share knowledge of fly tying with everyone.  I 
> have been 
> called a redneck, and a snob for not sharing right away this fly.  
> Who cares 
> people, some folks need to get a life.  What may work hot here may 
> not catch 
> a darn creek chub where you live?  
> 
>     If you want a recipe and tying instructions you are going to 
> have to 
> email Jim Burbank.  I do not care to deal with people that are rude 
> to me 
> anymore.  You may not see any posts on the list from me for a few 
> days, I 
> need to think about wether I am staying on this for comradery or 
> information. 
> I can get plenty of either in the chat room and maybe it is time for 
> me to 
> step away form this list!
> 
> sincerely ticked off
> john Ridderbos
> 
> 

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