This is helpful to me but a DVD with different materials would be even
better - hint.

Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] rope dub question


> No I don't have natural wax on my fingers.  ;o)
>
> When I said any dubbing can be rope-dubbed, I didn't mean that all
dubbings
> roped identically to other types, or with exactly the same technique.
(Bob
> Haering's 'Dubbing from Hell' (Rainbow Bright)took some work to figure out
a
> roping technique, and so did the picric acid dyed mole hair.)  Long
strands
> and short hairs will both rope easily if the technique is changed just a
> bit.
>
> Start with longer synthetics for practice.  And forget about getting the
> dubbing to stick to the thread- that's the old way.  You're trying to get
> the dubbing to spin around the thread without spinning the thread itself.
> This requires the dubbing be anchored- that's all.  With long fibers, spin
> away from the hook and let it tighten towards the hook.  With short hairs
> and furs, start roping closer to the hook, or even at the hook, and let
the
> material stretch out along the thread away from the hook as you rope.
Keep
> the thread tight- important- do not let it spin with the dubbing.  That's
> why mono thread works so well- dubbing WON'T stick to it.
>
> And rolling up a noodle will work with anything that will roll, but not
all
> dubbings will roll that way.  Plus it's another unnecessary step.  With
all
> bagged dubbings, I just pinch from the bag, anchor the tip fibers, rope,
and
> I am done.  With hair/fur on the hide, I can cut a hank, anchor, rope, and
I
> am done.  The amount of dubbing I pinch out is dictated by the size and
> density of fly I am tying.  Whether I tie the fur or hair tips or butts
> down, or hand-blend the guard and underhair before anchoring, depends on
the
> look I want for the fly.
>
> The hardest thing about rope-dubbing is letting go of the old methods.  It
> is not a blend of techniques, and doing so makes roping much more
difficult.
>
> And don't forget roping in a hackle, roping peacock, and using wire to tie
> on.
>
> If you want me to cover the steps again, just let me know.
>
> Regards,
> DonO
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Michael B. Bliss
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 2:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] rope dub question
>
>
> Having watched and tried - I am now convinced DonO has wax naturally on
his
> fingers.  He makes it look so easy and it was not for me.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 3:53 PM
> Subject: [VFB] rope dub question
>
>
> Well, I finally decided to try DonO's famous rope dub method.  Thanks to
the
> vfb and Hans' websites with plenty of instructions.  The method seems
quite
> simple but DonO claims any dubbing will work.  I'm trying to use the rope
> dub routine with shaved beaver (get your minds on tying flys boys!) which
> has very short strands.  This material does not lend itself to roping very
> well but the claim is any dubbing will work.
>
> Can anyone explain to me the best method to extend the teardrop long
enough
> to rope a #16 mayfly?  I'm also having a time trying to get poly dubbing
to
> "stick to the thread".  My adventures are ending up with me pulling out
the
> rope and dubbing the usual way.  Is there a secret to wrapping the rope
> other than the counterclockwise twist?  Are you sure I shouldn't add a bit
> of wax to the thread?
>
> I know there was quite a thread on this a long while back but I was too
busy
> at my job to read all the posts.  Now, I am desperately trying to learn
this
> confounded method for DonO's swap and my fingers just don't get it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Murf
>

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