Don S,

I've been watching Norm wind flies for years with his rotary.  It is a great
tool.  The retractable bobbins are neat, too.

My opinion- if you are a serious commercial tier that has to efficiently tie
1000's of identical 'box flies', and the 'salmonfly artistry' is not part of
the picture, the NorVise is for you.  The vise does a lot of the work for
you, fast and efficient, especially wound type flies (like the wooly-buggers
mentioned).  It is not as good with built-up or stacked flies like
streamers, muddlers, classic salmonflies, & such.

As for me personally, I enjoy tying my own flies, that is, doing the tying
myself.  Since I don't tie for speed or quantity, the NorVise advantages
don't count for much.  And since I tied for years without a vise or bobbins,
I'm a 'hands on' type of tier anyway, not relying on a lot of tools.
Anyway, my best selling flies are tied on a mechanic's shop vise, not a fly
vise.

So it's the type of tying you do that really determines whether or not you
can put the NorVise to good use.  It's a big investment that would pay off
for the commercial tier or someone that has to stock up a shop.

Just MHO,

DonO



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Deborah Duran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Nor-Vise WOW!


> Bill
> Are you saying you tie your classic salmon flies by hand with out the use
of
> a vise?  Curious minds want to know.
> Deb
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:15 PM
> Subject: RE: [VFB] Nor-Vise WOW!
>
>
> Don,
>   I like it when I want to really crank out some flies. For flies that are
> tied "in the round" like a Woolly Bugger; the speed and precision are
> unbeatable. The machine made look might not appeal in a classic salmon fly
> where tied in the hand without any vise is considered the peak of the art.
>
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of Don W Schaeffer
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 8:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [VFB] Nor-Vise WOW!
>
> Went to the Midwest fly fishing show this Sunday and got to meet Norm
> Norlander and the Nor-Vise, Does anybody have one and do you like it or
what
> is your opinion on it.
> Thanks
> Don S
>
>
>


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