I guess if I was there, turn-about is fair play.
If a vendor came over to my tying station, I'd have to shut him down-
policy, you know.
I guess I've always been one to buck the system.

But I'll never tie at a show like that.
Life's too short, and Fantasy Fly Co. is all about having fun.

DonO

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Frye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Re:home from Yellowstone/FFF conclave


> I'm curious as to why they would tell tyers not to
> socialize with vendors. I'm sure there's and obvious
> reason, but it's not coming to me.
>
> --- Deb Duran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The politics take a lot of fun away from the shows
> > and can be quite
> > entertaining at times.  It will eventually bite them
> > in the butt.   That may
> > be why a lot of the big name tiers have shied away.
> > Once you know longer
> > have to "prove" yourself you aren't going to let
> > them get away with
> > "bumping" or dictating who you are allowed to
> > socialize with.  You'll
> > eventually put your efforts into more enjoyable
> > shows.  The shows are great
> > for networking and making some very good friends.  I
> > have seen up close some
> > clubs that are falling apart from too many politics
> > and swelled ego's.
> > There is no place for that in my life I tend to
> > avoid them.   I can tie with
> > some of the best tyers in our area and then when I
> > go to teach my class I
> > learn the best tricks from a beginner at my table.
> > ;)  They don't have any
> > preconceived ideas for how it "should" be done.
> > Deb
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ginger Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:06 PM
> > Subject: [VFB] Re:home from Yellowstone/FFF conclave
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >Hello all,
> > >
> > > First let me say since Brian Burgess asked, we are
> > o.k.
> > > We spent 5 hours in the master bathroom on 8/13
> > waiting for hurricane
> > > Charley to pass.
> > > Our house/property only suffered some minor wind
> > damage. We were a day
> > late
> > > flying out to Montana as the planes had all left
> > our area.
> > > Brian... there is not one tourist on Ft Myers
> > Beach, Sanibel or
> > > Captiva....weird.
> > >
> > > We fished the Madison Monday but there was a cold
> > front and a small rain
> > so
> > > no hatches. Tues and Wed I took Atlantic Salmon
> > fly tying. Whew, talk
> > about
> > > advanced techniques. Thurs we had better luck on
> > the Madison and I tied
> > > Thursday night from 6-9. I was bumped from
> > > tying during the day by who knows who wanting to
> > do who knows what. There
> > > was a good crowd Thurs. night. I managed to tie 4
> > flies.
> > > (one flat wing, Deb). I was told not to socialize
> > with the vendors and to
> > > pack up promptly at 9. Gee what a serious crowd,
> > maybe they need to tie
> > > some tiger mice, eh Don?  Friday we fished Indian
> > creek and offshoot of
> > the
> > > Madison, south of Ennis. We hiked up a mile and
> > 3/4 up a rock canyon. Very
> > > beautiful stream. My husband landed 2 nice fish I
> > missed a couple. I was
> > > pretty much exhausted from everything and sat down
> > and watched the stream
> > > at the end. Grizzly country but saw no sign of
> > them. Sat we watched all
> > the
> > > other tyers. I met Henk V. in person. Now have one
> > of his extended
> > > body/cdc/wally wing mayflies, very nice. Somehow
> > Henk got bumped from
> > tying
> > > in the afternoon. He could have moved to another
> > spot somewhere but what a
> > > hassle. Maybe these people need to join the VFB
> > list... they didn't even
> > > thank us. Anyway we met a lot of super nice people
> > and some Whiting pro
> > > staffers who want me back next year. I'll try I
> > said. Seems like you also
> > > get dropped from their invite list if you don't
> > show up every year.
> > >
> > > Well... back home to clean out our moldy fridge as
> > our power was out for 7
> > > days. We still do not have a home phone but our
> > very lucky compared to the
> > > people who lost everything. If you wish a $15
> > video the proceeds go to
> > > victims: http://www.water.net/Charley/
> > >
> > >
> > > Ginger M. Allen
> > > Sr. Biological Scientist
> > > Florida Master Naturalist Program Coordinator
> > > www.MasterNaturalist.ifas.ufl.edu
> > > www.MasterNaturalist.org
> > > Department of Wildlife & Ecology Conservation
> > > UF/IFAS
> > > 2686 SR 29 N
> > > Immokalee, FL 34142-9515
> > > PH  (239) 658-3409 (suncom974-3400)
> > > Fax (239) 658-3469 (suncomfax974-3469)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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