Ok people lets do this again.  What six flies would you have to have to
fish?

BobH 

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Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 1:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [VFB] videos and compatibility -- spey flies

That's cool Rene........for the most part i love to learn new flies for 
trout fishing all the time. It's fun to see if they "work." But actually
i 
believe any fly (almost), will work if presented right. Any good 
fisherperson can catch fish with a half dozen flies or less, anywhere, 
anytime. Good, meaning.....with the right presentation. And of course a
lot 
of confidence. You gotta believe..........LOL. At this point in
time......i 
belive that fly tying has evolved to be more about pleasing fisher
people, 
more than pleasing trout or any sport fish for that matter. And there's 
nothing wrong with that. You can take five flies from 80 years ago and
be 
successful if you know what your doing. So why do we need thousands of 
patterns? Because we've got millions of fisherpersons fishing hundreds
of 
different rivers, all believing that there's a certain fly that'll "do
the 
trick" during certain times of year, under certain circumstance, at
certain 
times of day, with certain light, and certain temps, during certain 
hatches.............add infant item, LOL. Makes it a lot of fun, but
doesn't 
prove a thing nessessarily. Fly tying is endlessly fascinating, because
it 
forces us to use our imginations, case closed. The whole imitation thing
is 
great because tyers keep comming up with better and better imitations,
but 
like i said, the old standards still "work wonders" ........in the right

hands. I only go on this long (winded, lol) because i agree with your 
statement about, "For Only Your Eyes." That's GOT to be a tune, someone
once 
wrote, lol. And because i find the most pleasure at the vise simply
creating 
flies that i never knew would be until they are finished.......One By
One. 
And THAT is a great tune. mark......


>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rene Zillmann)
>Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [VFB] videos and compatibility -- spey flies
>Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 23:14:57 +0200
>
>Mark,
>That's one of the theories, that samon take the flies, because they 
>remember them to their favorite food - shrimps.
>Anyway, I also sometimes tie flies, which I don't intend to fish - only
for 
>my eyes...
>Best
>Rene
>mark romero wrote:
>
>>Rene, i always tye in by the tip for my soft hackles. I like the
longest 
>>fibers (barbs) to be the last to go on............so that they flare
out 
>>the longest and "Best." I've got a "thing" about Spey flies, and the
whole 
>>concept of hackle being something that looks pretty/and or wild, and 
>>"flows." I'm always interested in looking at old Irish, Welsh and
English 
>>flies too....and flies from other parts of Europe also. Now
traditionally 
>>Spey flies have the hackle tyed in by the butt, because the hackle is 
>>supposed to be longer in the rear.......but i dunno. I kind of like it

>>longer up front. Don't suppose the fish care one way or the other. But

>>since the Spey fly is really a shrimp imitation.........i guess it
does 
>>make sense for the hackle, (legs/pinchers) to be longer in the 
>>rear.......the direction the shrimp travels. Get it? My flies are not 
>>exactly shrimp imitatins though, lol. They are the next stage in the
Spey 
>>evolution, lol. Space Speys, or something like that, LMAO. Actually
i'm 
>>just hoping they will work on ANY type Salmon (Pacific or Atlantic)
and or 
>>Steelhead. I haven't had the chance to try them out yet, because
there's a 
>>regulation that says you can't fish with a fly tyed on a hook as big
as 
>>i've been using, up on the tribs. of Lake Ontario, upstate. So, i'm
going 
>>to have to size them down and give 'em a try. mark............
>>
>

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