From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: presentation vs pattern/color Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 15:00:21 -0800
OK, Larry, where's your comments for this discussion? You're one of the list experts.
Joyce's comments are typical of so many rivers. One fly pattern can just be
a killer. But could it be fished improperly and unsuccessfully, being
nipped off for something different yet less effective? What if Joyce WAS
using a rainbow warrior as a dropper under a dry fly and not getting
anything? The originator of the pattern walks up and clobbers them in the
same hole dead-drifting the same fly on a sink-tip.
So when are you satisfied that a pattern isn't THE pattern? How do you know
you just aren't fishing it properly? When should you retire the fly or
should you try another presentation method?
Getting dark- gotta decide quick- fish are rising but getting no takes- change flies or change presentation? Which one...which one....
DonO
----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:29 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: presentation vs pattern/color
OK Joyce. The next time we meet to tie, will you bring your rainbow warrior for all (me) to see...? Thanks
Larry J
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/27/04 08:37PM >>>
An interesting discussion..and I believe both are important. But here, on
the Provo (the only river I really feel I know anything about) pattern is
VERY important. Try throwing any thing in size 12 or 10 and most likely you
will never get a rise. Try a tiny midge, 22 or 20 and you will be very
successful. These fish have had so many patterns and such big stuff thrown
at them that they tend to key in on little things. One day, and I'm sure
you've heard this before, I fished my favorite hole many times, used
everything in my flybox and not a rise. So, I stopped at the side to try and
determine what else I could try. Along came this great casting flyfisher who
fished the very same hole..and with every cast caught a fish..exactly the
same water as I had been fishing. I asked him, when he reached me, what he
was using, and he showed me his own pattern, a Rainbow Warrior..and gave me
two..one for a pattern and one to fish. (turns out he was Lance Egan and has
many Utah fishing records). I tied on the Rainbow warrior, went right back
into the same water, fished it exactly as I had done before and was rewarded
with a fish on every cast..no change in my presentation..but a mighty change
in fly. I may be old fashioned, but I do think that what you are casting is
every bit as important as how you are presenting it. But..your opinion is as
valid as mine is. Joyce
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