On 25 Nov, 2004, at 8:59, mark romero wrote:

Actually Iain a couple of mine might have. Did the Moors (sp?) ever make it that far?

Not in occupation as far as I remember, but they did penetrate France. I think the Roland epic tells of how the Moors were defeated somewhere in France. They had most of the Iberian peninsula occupied during the first few ages of the second millenium, and where finally defeated by the Reyes Catolicos (Ferdinand and Isabella, who also sent Columbus on his way...). The last Moorish ruler in Spain, the Sultan (? or something, can't remember now) of Granada (the Alhambra) was made to flee over the Sierra Nevada, although they didn't actually 'go back' to the Maghreb (north-western Africa, mainly Morocco) but spent the rest of theirs days in the Alpujarras mountains between the Sierras and the Mediterranean -- not a bad choice...

The pass south to Granada that gives the last view on the Alhambra is (still) called 'il ultimo suspiro del Moro', or the last sigh of the Moor.

Probably more than you wanted to know...

henk

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